News & Discussion: Trams

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1366 Post by OlympusAnt » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:36 pm

The traffic light priority thing is really bad at Greenhill Rd. If a tram misses the sequence by 5 seconds, its a 2 minute+ wait to go through.

In the city, its often just as fast to get out at Victoria Square and walk up to the mall, such is the crawl of the trams.
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1367 Post by Ben » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:25 pm

Is the East Link tram extension happening? Its gone quiet.

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#1368 Post by PeFe » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:30 pm

The North Tce extension is due to start mid-year

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#1369 Post by Ben » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:34 pm

PeFe wrote:The North Tce extension is due to start mid-year
Has that been announced? The last I saw was in the press release which stated early works were to start by end of 2016.

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#1370 Post by PeFe » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:40 pm

Maybe the timeline has been pushed back.....originally it was going to be a mid-year start.
I am wondering whether the SA government is waiting for the O-bahn tunnel to be completed so buses do not need to use North Terrace.

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#1371 Post by Norman » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:44 pm

There was some "early work" earlier in the year where they did some services investigation (checking for wires, pipes, etc.). I think it has gone to tender already, which has been awarded to the same people as the Jerry Road works from memory. Major work should start in May or June.

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#1372 Post by how good is he » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:47 pm

I think the govt for a relatively minor outlay should 1) Extend the tram from Festival theatre to Adelaide Oval. It would get rid of a lot of buses on footy, cricket days. and 2) Extend North Tce tram to at least East Tce where the fringe is 3) Extend the entertainment centre tram down Port Rd to opp. Hindmarsh stadium. My guess is to extend all 3 would be only $50m esp as routes 1&2 are commencing soon.

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#1373 Post by Norman » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:36 pm

How would extending the tram to Adelaide Oval reduce the amount of buses on match days? They come from all over the city.

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#1374 Post by how good is he » Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:53 am

Yes you are right Norman. I guess I was naive to think our train & tram network would be developed enough to replace most buses. However if the tram network was fully developed as proposed (Eastlink,Westlink etc), do you think this could happen? Or would there still be too many "black spots"? If so, which areas?

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#1375 Post by Nort » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:24 am

If you want to get rid of a lot of busses you will need to add more trams to the network which will increase the cost a lot.

I'm all in favour of expanding the tram network, but I dislike seeing the stubby little tram leg down to Festival Theatre criticised because it's actually a great piece of future investment.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1376 Post by rubberman » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:29 pm

Is there a reason why the track relay in Jetty Road is being done using grooved tram rail, rather than standard tee head rail? I would have thought support for Whyalla would have been a no-brainer? Grooved rail is obviously unnecessary on straight track, as the existing track has proven..

Serious question, rather than a snark. For all I know, Arrium might not be taking on new orders.

Similarly, does anyone know why the track is being replaced? It's not all that worn, and the ride seems ok at the speeds usual on Jetty Road.

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#1377 Post by Norman » Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:53 pm

The current track was laid in the 1980s. The new form of the track itself might be because of the rubber inserts that will be put into the rails for the cyclists.

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1378 Post by Haso » Fri May 12, 2017 5:04 pm

Norman wrote:There was some "early work" earlier in the year where they did some services investigation (checking for wires, pipes, etc.). I think it has gone to tender already, which has been awarded to the same people as the Jerry Road works from memory. Major work should start in May or June.
I presume you are talking about this -https://www.tenders.sa.gov.au/tenders/c ... o?id=12032
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

#1379 Post by Kasey771 » Tue May 16, 2017 1:30 pm

PeFe wrote:Maybe the timeline has been pushed back.....originally it was going to be a mid-year start.
I am wondering whether the SA government is waiting for the O-bahn tunnel to be completed so buses do not need to use North Terrace.
That seems too much like logic :banana: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: for the govt and the PS;)
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

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