News & Discussion: General CBD Development

[Ben]

Looks like something is happning to the laneways and blank walls. Interestingly all applications are from different people.

[mattblack]

New 'New connections' edition out now.

http://dpti.sa.gov.au/newconnections

[Lochie1]

Heard today of a new proposal in the works. New building comprised of offices, retail & supermarket behind the Newmarket Hotel on corner of Rose/Newmarket streets. No idea of height yet, but involves demolishing the existing chemist & pool hall buildings, and includes a pedestrian tunnel under North Tce across to the new RAH site.

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Any new info on this development?

[Wayno]

Heard today of a new proposal in the works. New building comprised of offices, retail & supermarket behind the Newmarket Hotel on corner of Rose/Newmarket streets. No idea of height yet, but involves demolishing the existing chemist & pool hall buildings, and includes a pedestrian tunnel under North Tce across to the new RAH site.

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Any new info on this development?

latest news i heard (last saturday morning while playing golf) is the development will go ahead, but without the underpass. The developer was seeking govt $$$ assistance with the underpass but doubts that will happen.

[Shahkar]

What's the point of a pedestrian tunnel when you have a tram?

[monotonehell]

What's the point of a pedestrian tunnel when you have a tram?

They would have gone in directions perpendicular.

[BRADDO75]

I'm not totally up to speed with the proposed parking tax to car spaces in the city. Could someone shed some light on this subject?
With Mixed Used Developments up for approval, how will this effect parking taxes? Is this tax related only to public car parking e.g Wilson / U-Park or will these Mixed Used Developments also be effected? If so at $750 per space, would developers be concerned? or would they not be effected?

[HeapsGood]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/architect ... 6652792502

BUILDING across city streets to create new plazas and shared zones for walkers, cyclists and shops is part of a bold vision to transform Adelaide from a car-friendly grid into a pedestrian haven.

City-based architect Richard Samulis' says the CBD can increase its population by building "horizontally as well as vertically" through "a radical rethink of use of the street grid". Mr Samulis has pitched his manifesto to City Council staff and the State Government, which has referred it to the Office of Design and Architecture for consideration.

The plan includes:

EXTENDING building frontages and allowing new buildings in the middle of "wide and little-used" streets to create "semi-enclosed pedestrian plazas";

BANNING through-traffic from those streets and slowing vehicles accessing shops and homes to walking speed;

CREATING "walk-under" areas for shade and social use by elevating new buildings;

RESURFACING shared zones with "beautiful materials" such as cobblestones "to remove the distinction between street and footpath", and;

ENCOURAGING hole-in-the-wall bars, cafes, and shops in the shared zones and adding fountains, sculptures and street furniture.

The City Council has welcomed Mr Samulis' vision but says it presents significant economic and legislative challenges.

Mr Samulis nominated Frome and Flinders streets as prime candidates for his plan because they took little traffic outside peak times.

He said his plan would address Adelaide's lack of "surprising spaces", make the city a more appealing place to live in, and help absorb population growth without the need for highrises in residential areas.

"You could walk a long way from block to block without worrying about traffic and it starts to change the character of the city," he said.

Mr Samulis said the plan was a radical proposition for a conservative city, but pointed to the upcoming upgrade of Hindley St outside UniSA, creating a shared zone for pedestrians and cars, as a modest test case.

He said motorists would likely baulk at his plan and conceded it could not be implemented widely without major public transport improvements, including underground rail in the longer term.

Formerly a London-based computer engineer and account manager for software companies, Mr Samulis returned to his native Adelaide in 2005.

He qualified as an architect in 2009 and launched his own practice last year. His plan can be found on his blog: provocate.com.au.

[Wayno]

The above proposal (e.g. building over streets) could be a source of additional income for the ACC. Effectively selling 'air rights' to developers. Thoughts?

[metro]

The above proposal (e.g. building over streets) could be a source of additional income for the ACC. Effectively selling 'air rights' to developers. Thoughts?

it's been done already in Adelaide, and it isn't pretty..

Charles Street, Rundle Mall:
http://goo.gl/maps/EcG9V

Stephens Place, Rundle Mall:
http://goo.gl/maps/EXqFh

Topham Mall, CBD:
http://goo.gl/maps/jEFTR

Morialta Street, CBD:
http://goo.gl/maps/TeTnW

City Central, CBD:
http://goo.gl/maps/JryLc

Woodsons Lane, North Terrace:
http://goo.gl/maps/28ms9

Festival Drive, Adelaide Railway Station:
http://goo.gl/maps/pdvU2

[monotonehell]

The above proposal (e.g. building over streets) could be a source of additional income for the ACC. Effectively selling 'air rights' to developers. Thoughts?

it's been done already in Adelaide, and it isn't pretty..

With a different outcome in mind however, the designs would be different.
For example requireing streetfront activation, landscaping, lighting and sunlight requirments.

[Mants]

With a different outcome in mind however, the designs would be different.
For example requireing streetfront activation, landscaping, lighting and sunlight requirments.

how can a building which is suspended over the road have streetfront activation?

[Aidan]

how can a building which is suspended over the road have streetfront activation?

A good example is Wood Green Shopping City, in London's northern suburbs

[monotonehell]

With a different outcome in mind however, the designs would be different.
For example requireing streetfront activation, landscaping, lighting and sunlight requirments.

how can a building which is suspended over the road have streetfront activation?

I'm speaking of the undercroft.

[Matt]

how can a building which is suspended over the road have streetfront activation?

A good example is Wood Green Shopping City, in London's northern suburbs

How random. I used to live a couple of streets away and shopped there often.