News & Discussion: General CBD Development

[rhino]

how can a building which is suspended over the road have streetfront activation?

A good example is Wood Green Shopping City, in London's northern suburbs

How random. I used to live a couple of streets away and shopped there often.

Then maybe you can tell us - it looks really good in that photo, but what was it like actually under the building, where there was no sky above? Was it much like the photos Metro linked to, of Adelaide's covered walkways - ie dark and ordinary?

[bva]

i have a house near there.
It is a very poor environment reinforced by signficiant fencing etc to control pedestrian movement.
It feels like being a poorly designed tunnel.
This design stems from the 80's (I tjhink) so a better design with more light, modern materials and decent pedestrian footspace, may deliver a better aoutcome.

BTW
what do you think of Wood Green

[Shahkar]

Connoisseur David Roche gifts new museum to city

A MAJOR new private museum will be built in Adelaide following the death of Adelaide connoisseur and collector David Roche.

Having the greatest collection of European 18th and early 19th century antiques in the Southern Hemisphere, the museum can be expected to attract visitors from across Australia and overseas.

It will be developed on the late Mr Roche's extensive property holdings on Melbourne St, North Adelaide.

Australian saleroom writer Terry Ingram has put the value of David Roche's antiques collection at well over $70 million.

In 1999, Mr Roche, who never married and had no children, announced he was forming the David Roche Foundation as a not-for-profit organisation to maintain and develop his collection and open it to the public.

Following his death in March, his entire estate was gifted to the foundation.

Well known internationally as a connoisseur collector of British Regency and French Empire antiques, Mr Roche began collecting in the 1940s.

The collection includes Napoleon Bonaparte's flintlock pistol; Catherine the Great's armchair; plates from a dinner service owned by the Duke of Gloucester, brother of George III; and a kangaroo-themed plate given as part of a dinner service by Empress Josephine and Napoleon, to his sister Pauline on her marriage to Prince Camillo Borghese.

His consultant, Sydney antiques dealer Martyn Cook, said Mr Roche had been fascinated by "house" museums around the world, where individual collectors had gifted their properties and collections to be maintained and exhibited in perpetuity.

"I have been appointed the inaugural curator," Mr Cook said. "Within the next two years we will build a suitable Schinkel-style modern gallery within the Melbourne Street properties."

Mr Cook said the gallery would exhibit revolving displays of Mr Roche's collection. His Melbourne St house would also be open to the public.

The house itself was presented as a luxurious gentleman's home from the period, busy with rich furnishings, paintings and objects.

"It is an astounding gift - (so) lucky Adelaide," Mr Cook said. "(Mr Roche) was proud to be of Adelaide and, indeed, of being a nationalistic Aussie."

Mr Roche - a major donor to the Art Gallery of SA - in 2000 gave the gallery an important portrait of Captain Matthew Flinders by Toussaint Antoine de Chazal de Chamerel, painted while Flinders was held on the island of Mauritius.

The gift was in memory of David Roche's father, Jack, who had founded the family company, Adelaide Development Company, in 1922.

ADC has very extensive property holdings and remains an important player on the development scene.

[Matt]

Then maybe you can tell us - it looks really good in that photo, but what was it like actually under the building, where there was no sky above? Was it much like the photos Metro linked to, of Adelaide's covered walkways - ie dark and ordinary?

The areas a dump, the shopping centre is rubbish, and the overpass thing isn't remarkable in any way, really.
I don't think it's added anything particularly useful or exciting to the area. It's relatively dark, dingy and unmemorable.

A heap of the shop fronts around there were smashed up during the London riots. Not a great area.

[Wayno]

Connoisseur David Roche gifts new museum to city

Awesome.

[Dazzeland]

http://www.travelweekly.com.au/travel-t ... s-adelaide

Looks like budget hotel chain Tune (similar to Formule 1) are looking to set up here on the back of the new AirAsia services.

[Shahkar]

Adelaide building boom worth $2.5bn

DEVELOPERS have earmarked more than $2.5 billion of major city projects since the State Government relaxed planning regulations in March last year.

The Development Assessment Commission has approved close to $700 million worth of projects since then and is assessing two more valued at $84 million.

A further 24 projects worth $1.8 billion are progressing through the commission's pre-lodgement process, including the $350 million expansion of Adelaide Casino.

Of the remaining 23, 15 are mixed-use projects with combinations of apartments, ho-tels, offices and retail, but the Government would not pro-vide specific details.

And development industry leaders say the reforms have the potential to spark a private-building boom led by international investors.

They say the growth will transform the city skyline over the next decade, complementing the rush of major public projects under construction such as Adelaide Oval and the new Royal Adelaide Hospital.

The reforms doubled building heights to 30 storeys on parts of King William, Pulteney, Currie, Grenfell and Flinders streets, allowed 15-storey buildings on Gouger and Hindley streets and the terraces, and removed height limits for sites of more than 1500sq m.

Developers can choose to collaborate with Government planners in a case-management service to refine applications before they are lodged, in order to slash formal approval times from six months to as little as a few weeks.

Master Builders Association SA acting chief executive David Callan said allowing bigger projects made Adelaide more attractive to developers.

"What's been most important is the lack of restraints and obstacles in seeking development approval so we can go ahead and build things in the CBD," he said.

"We've seen particularly some international money funding some higher and medium-density developments in Adelaide, which is all very good for our economy."

Property Council SA executive director Nathan Paine said the changes had given developers "greater capacity to generate an economic income".

This was despite the industry still struggling with low levels of demand and confidence.

Planning Minister John Rau said the surge in building activity "demonstrates confidence in the construction and commercial development industry in South Australia".

[uming]

I think the adelaide CBD Apartments are now in over supply. every corner you can see some apartment construction going on
in 2-3 years, when all these apartments are built, available on the market, how many people will really want to live there??
I think not THAT MUCH.. compare to the rooms available...

when developer and government giving good incentive and seeking oversea buyers, there is a dangerous sign.. I think Maybe Adelaide will be like Melbourne in few years time
Over Supply of CBD Apartment will be dangerous for investors

[Reb-L]

I think the adelaide CBD Apartments are now in over supply. every corner you can see some apartment construction going on
in 2-3 years, when all these apartments are built, available on the market, how many people will really want to live there??
I think not THAT MUCH.. compare to the rooms available...

when developer and government giving good incentive and seeking oversea buyers, there is a dangerous sign.. I think Maybe Adelaide will be like Melbourne in few years time
Over Supply of CBD Apartment will be dangerous for investors

But good for people who rent.

[MessiahAndrw]

I think the adelaide CBD Apartments are now in over supply. every corner you can see some apartment construction going on
in 2-3 years, when all these apartments are built, available on the market, how many people will really want to live there??
I think not THAT MUCH.. compare to the rooms available...

when developer and government giving good incentive and seeking oversea buyers, there is a dangerous sign.. I think Maybe Adelaide will be like Melbourne in few years time
Over Supply of CBD Apartment will be dangerous for investors

I wouldn't worry about it - if anything, I think it's a good thing.

Basic capitalism states that when supply exceeds demand, there are two outcomes:
- You reduce the supply (stop construction)
- You increase the demand (lower prices to attract more people)

[claybro]

Have been searching the real estate sites, as I am currently looking at the possibility of moving into the CBD, or near suburbs. Looking at both buy or rent, and I am frustrated by the lack of decent space available. Even a budget of $450K (well over the Adelaide metro median) does not buy much in the CBD. To my dismay, decent old heritage buildings such as 23 KWS (such a beautiful building BTW) have a stunning deco lift foyer but the internal floors are carved up into basically student accommodation. Some other buildings resemble not much more than short stay hotel style accommodation. Even a budget much larger than mine would not allow a decent size, classic style apartment in our CBD. they just do not appear to be available. If the government is serious about getting us into apartment living, surely there should be more variety on offer at around the metro average price. Even Bowden is looking a little overpriced for such high density. I know the developers need to make money, but something is not quite adding up. I really hope that in my lifetime, our CBD residential scene matures beyond student accommodation and 2 bedroom dogboxes.

[Nathan]

Have been searching the real estate sites, as I am currently looking at the possibility of moving into the CBD, or near suburbs. Looking at both buy or rent, and I am frustrated by the lack of decent space available. Even a budget of $450K (well over the Adelaide metro median) does not buy much in the CBD. To my dismay, decent old heritage buildings such as 23 KWS (such a beautiful building BTW) have a stunning deco lift foyer but the internal floors are carved up into basically student accommodation. Some other buildings resemble not much more than short stay hotel style accommodation. Even a budget much larger than mine would not allow a decent size, classic style apartment in our CBD. they just do not appear to be available. If the government is serious about getting us into apartment living, surely there should be more variety on offer at around the metro average price. Even Bowden is looking a little overpriced for such high density. I know the developers need to make money, but something is not quite adding up. I really hope that in my lifetime, our CBD residential scene matures beyond student accommodation and 2 bedroom dogboxes.

Keep an eye on the next stage in Bowden. The apartments are more your mark, but all the current ones (stage 1) are gone. There's still some terraces in stage 1, but they're a bit more. The Scott Salisbury townhouses have disappeared off the website now as they're going back to the drawing board - with the feedback that they were too pricy. So expect some adjustment of pricing with their replacements, as well as the apartments in the next stage.

[claybro]

Keep an eye on the next stage in Bowden. The apartments are more your mark, but all the current ones (stage 1) are gone. There's still some terraces in stage 1, but they're a bit more. The Scott Salisbury townhouses have disappeared off the website now as they're going back to the drawing board - with the feedback that they were too pricy. So expect some adjustment of pricing with their replacements, as well as the apartments in the next stage

Cheers mate. I really like the idea of Bowden. All the convenience of the CBD, but a bit more room to breathe, and one stop on the train or tram away. I'm not surprised SSH came in a bit pricy, but they do have some stylish, quality products. Lets hope the whole development finds the right mix a quality, variation and price.

[crawf]

THE western end of Adelaide Railway Station's North Tce entrance will be closed from next week while work on an upgrade begins.

Transport Minister Tom Koutsantonis said the $1.2 million project, including new escalators alongside refurbished stairs, would improve the capacity of the station to handle large crowds.

"Our investments in the Adelaide Oval redevelopment and the Riverbank precinct are expected to attract larger numbers of people moving from our enlivened laneways in the CBD through the Adelaide station to the new footbridge and beyond," he said.

"The escalators will also provide better connections between trams and buses to our trains."

The entrance, at the western end of the station's North Tce frontage, will be closed from Monday (July 22) until early September while the stairs down to the concourse are refurbished.

The escalators will be installed after that.

The $1.2 million project is part of $3 million of upgrades to the station's main hall that were announced in the State Budget and will be completed over two years.

New toilets were added to the station and new escalators were installed in Station Arcade earlier this year.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger ... 6681467346

[Eurostar]

What happened to the proposed Hungry Jacks on Hindley Street in the City?