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This entire debate is puerile. You can't compare a regional country town to a capital city and try and state that one is better. There is no comparison between the two. It is, however, a matter of lifestyle choice and if one suits over the other then fair enough.

I will also add that Whyalla is in the midst of a mini boom, and the population is in fact on the increase.

Just Google " Project Magnet ".

There is a buzz around the town, confidence is sky high, and OneSteel is investing Millions, if not Billions of dollars for the next twenty five years.

Tell me Adelaide, where is your boom ?, where is your confidence, where is the money being spent ? Apart from the pretty parklands you have that sexual predators hang around, what else do you have ?

Just take another of those photos down smelly, stinky South Road.

When statements are made like bdm's " We should just abandon Whyalla. It should have never been built, and is the filthiest location in the world. "

No wonder folk like us get our backs up. bdm......your a goose. You did your job and stirred me up.

Where's Adelaide's boom?

hmm maybe the $6 billion air warfare destroyer being built in Osborne. the

$1.5 billion Newport Quays project at Port Adelaide with 2000 homes and

apartments being built. The $600 million City Central Project and the $500

million "the precinct" project formerly known as west central. Also the

expansion of the Edinburgh industrial precinct. South road is now currently

upgraded with underpasses and a new Port expressway has been built from

Port Adelaide to Pt Wakefield Road i think the suburb is Cavan to help

remove the increased freight traffic from Grand Junction rd from more

industries coming to the area as a result of deppening the Port River.

i think that shouls answer your question Jayse. anyway this shouldn''t

be an argument between wheres better as the whole of SA is

experiencing better economic times. I think whyalla would be have more

confidence with the Olympic Dam mine expansion and proposed

desalination plant. this housing project would also help boost confidence

in the town and hopefully turn around its reputation as a dying town.

hopefully in 5-10 years whyalla will be a more prosperous place. Cheers

Jayse wrote:Ok, to be fair, next time im in Adelaide, i'll take photos of the streets after streets, and suburb after suburb of graffitied walls, and fences and buildings. Ecpecially around the Henley and Grange area, among many many other run down, sorry dirty suburbs. That make Whyalla look even lusher than your first postcard picture of the Torrens.

Graffiti of which is very hard to find in Whyalla. Not to mention the thousands of sorry homeless people in Adelaide, of which are also very hard if not impossible to find in Whyalla.

You remind me of East German propaganda.

I figure someone that has actually lived in Whyalla for their whole life (well, until recently) should post, i.e. Me.

In regards to the red dust problem, it really only affects the eastern part of Whyalla, i.e. east of Playford avenue.

What else do people want to know about Whyalla, from someone who has actually lived there?

darksidelemm wrote:I figure someone that has actually lived in Whyalla for their whole life (well, until recently) should post, i.e. Me.

In regards to the red dust problem, it really only affects the eastern part of Whyalla, i.e. east of Playford avenue.

What else do people want to know about Whyalla, from someone who has actually lived there?

I have also lived in Whyalla my whole life, and in fact still do, and tend to get defensive when blind stupidity is posted, such as bdm's comments.

Fire away darksidelemm, love to hear your comments positive or negative.

I do agree its a mute argument, in relation to lifestyles. And i will admit that Adelaide has been good to me and my family in regard to sport and medical situations.

But when the defences are up, they are up.

Jayse wrote:Ok, to be fair, next time im in Adelaide, i'll take photos of the streets after streets, and suburb after suburb of graffitied walls, and fences and buildings. Ecpecially around the Henley and Grange area, among many many other run down, sorry dirty suburbs. That make Whyalla look even lusher than your first postcard picture of the Torrens.

Fair? WTF. Three of those pictures are of the town centre and another one is the main street, its not my fault Whyalla looks like a hole. There were the only photos I could find of Whyalla, anyway why don't you go around and take a few photos and try and prove to us that the town is moving ahead, because those pictures show otherwise - I know there a few years old, but still looks like a disgrace and very outdated.

Trying to say that Whyalla is better than Adelaide or comparing the two is just bloody ridiculous, and no offense it makes you look like a idiot.

Graffiti of which is very hard to find in Whyalla. Not to mention the thousands of sorry homeless people in Adelaide, of which are also very hard if not impossible to find in Whyalla.

Eh, so it should be its only home to 22,000 people while Adelaide is about 1.2 million.

Oh and BTW, I took that postcard picture

*ah-hum*... yeah how about that "ocean eyre" development?

crawf wrote:

Jayse wrote:Ok, to be fair, next time im in Adelaide, i'll take photos of the streets after streets, and suburb after suburb of graffitied walls, and fences and buildings. Ecpecially around the Henley and Grange area, among many many other run down, sorry dirty suburbs. That make Whyalla look even lusher than your first postcard picture of the Torrens.

Fair? WTF. Three of those pictures are of the town centre and another one is the main street, its not my fault Whyalla looks like a hole. There were the only photos I could find of Whyalla, anyway why don't you go around and take a few photos and try and prove to us that the town is moving ahead, because those pictures show otherwise - I know there a few years old, but still looks like a disgrace and very outdated.

Trying to say that Whyalla is better than Adelaide or comparing the two is just bloody ridiculous, and no offense it makes you look like a idiot.

Graffiti of which is very hard to find in Whyalla. Not to mention the thousands of sorry homeless people in Adelaide, of which are also very hard if not impossible to find in Whyalla.

Eh, so it should be its only home to 22,000 people while Adelaide is about 1.2 million.

Oh and BTW, I took that postcard picture

Those pictures are mainly of The SteelWorks. Some of the actual Town. You can pick and pick and take photos of whatever you want.

Nice Overview of the Gulf.



Ada Ryan Gardens.





I could rattle off millions of ugly photos of Adelaide. But i feel i shouldnt have to.

We are all South Aussies.

Looks like someone was at the snapper comp

EDIT: Nevermind, had a look at the EXIF data on the image and saw it was taken on the 19th of May last year...

bdm wrote:It's well planned, very well planned; but so is Elizabeth.

It is the stupidest location in the world and a lot of the industry that was put there could have been put elsewhere.

It should be abandoned so people can buy GOOD houses in a GOOD environment. Not in a red, dusty shithole. Why not put the industry and housing into Port Lincoln? That place is beautiful.

You "rich" people never see it...You think you are so better then everyone else because you live in one of the most expensive areas of Adelaide and when something good comes to people you sit there and bag what good is happening to them you have riled me up about this I have been to whyalla a couple of times, my parents used to live there my granfather build the docks and hospital there aswell as most of flinders medical centre so something really good comes to these people and you sit there and bag it just because they are not making burnside into a hollywood like you want it because you are so stuck up.



Other then that i think this developement is really good for the whyalla folk.

and about the comparing about a city and capitol city that is stupid like the victorians who are low about comparing elizabeth to melbourne like a suburb to city? Check it out here

No whyally won't ever be like adelaide well at least in the next quite a few years but there is no reason to bag it like i have many things to bag about so many places but it isn't worth is whyalla is a great place to go and i wouldn't compare it to adelaide either but still.

I didn't intend to invoke a bloody class war.

I'm simply saying that the LOCATION is bad.

I'm not ripping on the townspeople.

I don't give a crap about their wealth.

I'm sure there's plenty of lovely people there.

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bdm wrote: I'm simply saying that the LOCATION is bad.
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The location was chosen because of the deep water available for ships, and it's proximity to the Middleback Ranges where the iron ore is mined. There was already a town there, if I'm not mistaken, called Hummock Hill or something, and when the iron ore was discovered, it became the logical place to ship it out from.

The site of Adelaide was chosen for not dissimilar reasons - Colonel Light knew that he needed a deepwater port to serve the major city of the colony, he needed fresh water, and he needed flat land that could be farmed to supply food to his city. He didn't just say "Hey this looks like a beautiful spot, let's build a capital city here!"

Back to the Ocean Eyre development - I'm wondering how it will affect the prices of existing houses in Whyalla - will they go up in value, or come down because everyone wants to live in the new development area?

From the Whyalla News:

$53 million export project secured
by Seema Sharma
02 October 2007

Whyalla's economy will receive a further boost next year when a mineral resources company invests $53 million on rail and storage infrastructure to export iron ore from our shores.
Western Plains Resources Limited has leased land from OneSteel on the north east end of Whyalla harbour to set up permanent infrastructure to cater for cape size ships.
The company will send iron ore mined at Peculiar Knob and Hawks Nest in the Gawler Craton to Whyalla via eight trains per week.
Company chairman Bob Duffin and chief operating officer Martin Jacobsen were in Whyalla last week for a familiarisation tour.
They were excited about the project and found Whyalla to be an ideal site for exports.
Mr Duffin said while he could not put a number to the amount of employment that would be created there would surely be increased activity during the construction phase.
He said the company would set up an office in Whyalla to look after the transport and shipping operations.
"Our total budget for the transportation project is $108 million, out of which $53 million will be spent in Whyalla," Mr Duffin said.
"The facility that we will set up in Whyalla will be permanent and away from the city and the residential areas.
"We will have storage sheds, barge, loaders and an office to look after the work here.
"The construction work should start by the second quarter of next year and we hope to complete it within eight months.
"We intend to export at least 2.7 million tonnes ore each year which is almost the same as OneSteel.
"The company will continue to look at other mining opportunities in South Australia so the facilities in Whyalla are permanent."
Mayor Jim Pollock welcomed the investors saying Whyalla was changing rapidly and thanked major companies for having faith in the town.
"This is very good news for us and we welcome them whole heartedly," Mr Pollock said.
"Such huge investments will not only boost the economy but create employment and population.
"Western Plains is a reputable organisation and I am sure that they will continue to explore other business opportunities in South Australia and use Whyalla as its export base.
"I am very happy and extend an invitation to other investors to have a look at Whyalla before making a decision on an expansion or development venture."
The Peculiar Knob and Hawks Nest projects contain significant deposits of iron ore.
Initial resources development will be directed towards the Peculiar Knob and Buzzard hematite deposits with combined resource of 26.1 million tonnes, which have the potential of a 10-year mine life.
The Hawks Nest project contains more than half a billion tonnes of magnetite with significant exploration upside.
The company will leverage off its resources and operational base in South Australia to investigate other iron ore projects with the objective of becoming a significant producer.


For those of you wondering where Peculiar Knob and Hawks Nest are, there's a map at the company's website here:
http://imagesignal.comsec.com.au/asxdat ... 743121.pdf

Sounds like more good news for SA!

From today's Adelaide Now:

Whyalla port expansion
CAMERON ENGLAND
October 09, 2007 02:15am

AN expansion of OneSteel's Whyalla port complex, allowing it to be used by other companies for imports and bulk exports, will be examined under a partnership with the Whyalla Economic Development Board.
The WEDB said yesterday it was working on a blueprint with OneSteel to transform the iron ore export port into a high-capacity commercial shipping facility. WEDB chief executive Steven Arndt said the increase in mining and exploration activity across South Australia meant there was greater need for bulk export facilities, as well as import capabilities.
"With two deep-water shipping berths, Whyalla was the only major port in the state's north that was capable of meeting these demands," Mr Arndt said.
"We are confident that this planning and commitment by OneSteel to investigate the commercialisation of their port complex will see the potential for Whyalla to become a major road, rail and sea freight hub into the future.
"Mining will have a significant impact across South Australia and we are working to ensure that we can capitalise on this activity and create the infrastructure that will help service this booming industry."
In March OneSteel officially opened its iron ore transhipment facilities, which exports hematite iron ore by transporting it to 160,000-tonne cape-size vessels about 8km offshore using barges.
Mr Arndt said while OneSteel expected to fill about 18 ships a year, there was "considerable extra capacity" which could be used by other companies.
One company which is already interested in exporting via the OneSteel facility is Western Plains Resources, which last month said it planned to build a $110 million iron ore mine near Coober Pedy within a year.
That mine alone would send about eight trains of iron ore to Whyalla per week, adding up to about 2.7 million tonnes per year.
Other potential producers such as Goldstream Mining, which was looking at an iron ore, copper and gold mining also near Coober Pedy, are also known to be looking at Whyalla as an export point.