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rev wrote:

ghs wrote:

However, in line with the demands of the protesters who took NIMBY politics to a new level, Clipsal buildings are temporary; put up and taken down each year during a nine-month period. Amazing, but a fact

Bullshit.

A nine month period. It would be a 6 month period at the most. Our events & festivals are better now
than ever before how can he say Adelaide is crumbling.

It actually takes nearly 8 months. They start late November, early December.

As for the global companies thing, well SANTOS is the only true Australian company based in Adelaide that can be considered global.
BAE Systems Australia might be HQ'ed in Adelaide, but it comes back down to a point he was making about companies being gobbled up by bigger firms.
BAE Systems Australia is basically the likes of Tennix and other Australian defence firms which were bought out.

ASC really isn't worth mentioning because they haven't actually designed, developed and built anything of their own.
They've just been responsible for building existing designs. The Collins submarines for example are based on a German design. The Hobart destroyers are based on a Spanish design, which in turn is based on an American design.

crawf wrote:Funny that he forgot to mention that population growth is continuing to improve annually

Don't we still have a negative growth rate? As in more people are still leaving then staying/coming?

Despite the fact existing sports facilities consist of the god-forsaken, windswept AAMI Stadium and a quaintly out-of-date Adelaide Oval, the debate about a new stadium has been embarrassing. Similarly, plans for a new hospital were derailed for months by a vocal few who chose to ignore the fact that, when built, the hospital could be the most modern and well-equipped in the southern hemisphere.

THIS is what I call bullshit.
The AO redevelopment is going ahead, with the move away from AAMI in 4 years time.
The new hospital was never derailed. There was some vocal opposition, but the government never postponed plans for it.
Both projects are going ahead. The debate about the Oval might be embarrassing, but why bash Adelaide over it? The campaign was led by Adelaide Now and associated News Corp papers. Take a swing at them, not the people of Adelaide.

Melbourne or Perth would have jumped at such a chance, but Adelaide fostered tumbleweeds.

His peek into an alternatively reality tell him this?

Contributing further to the slowly sinking feeling is the demise of local media. First, Adelaide is a one-newspaper town. A strong and bold press should be one fundamental ingredient of a city's development. The Advertiser carries the burden alone.

He is writing for a news limited paper..
Maybe he could give old Rupert a call and get him to move over for Fairfax?

I'm not sure we'd want to become like Brisbane though where many of its residents complain about its declining lifestyle.

ricecrackers wrote:Anyone who lives in the Mitcham area and has had any dealings with them will know what i'm talking about.

ricecrackers wrote:I'm not sure we'd want to become like Brisbane though where many of its residents complain about its declining lifestyle.

The solution he does offer is further amalgamation of councils.

I think this would be a good idea given many local councils currently excel at doing absolutely nothing. Anyone who lives in the Mitcham area and has had any dealings with them will know what i'm talking about.

victorious80 wrote: Not overly important but i would like to point out that the Collins Class was a new design, designed by ASC with the assistance of an overseas designer. it was based on an existing Swedish design, but was adapted to meet the vastly different operating environment experienced in Aussie waters. similarly, the AWD design is based on an existing Spanish design (which was in direct competition with the American design). the reason for involving overseas designers is because they have vast experience and knowledge that ASC simply do not have at the moment (similar to the reason why SA are using Spanish desalination plant designers). however, by working closely with these experienced designers, knowledge and skills are slowly transferred to ASC and in time they will hopefully reach the same level as these experienced overseas designers. in fact, during the design of the Collins Class, many Swedish engineers came to Adelaide to assist with the design and loved it so much that they stayed - the ultimate knowledge transfer!

So I guess what i am driving at is that it would be unfortunate to dismiss ASC too quickly, as they really are helping to put Adelaide on the global shipbuilding map, and a nice by-product is that they bring in significant knowledge and experience to our state.

frank1 wrote:Although this article outlines some truths about SA, particularly buisness aspects, IMO there is one core issue about SA that fails to be emphasized. SA needs to concentrate on setting up graduate positions, particularly for university graduates. For example SA could become the research centre for geothermal energy and uranium research. SA could focus on research institutions while the rest of the Australia sells out to become a 'service' country. These type of research centres have done wonders for places like Germany, Findland, Sweeden, Norway.

If SA focuses on this issue, i believe the rest of the so called 'attractions' e.g. corperate offices, nightlife, entertainment precincts, etc will quickly follow with the inflow of people.

ricecrackers wrote:

frank1 wrote:Although this article outlines some truths about SA, particularly buisness aspects, IMO there is one core issue about SA that fails to be emphasized. SA needs to concentrate on setting up graduate positions, particularly for university graduates. For example SA could become the research centre for geothermal energy and uranium research. SA could focus on research institutions while the rest of the Australia sells out to become a 'service' country. These type of research centres have done wonders for places like Germany, Findland, Sweeden, Norway.

If SA focuses on this issue, i believe the rest of the so called 'attractions' e.g. corperate offices, nightlife, entertainment precincts, etc will quickly follow with the inflow of people.

yes, Australia becoming a service country is a worrying development. together with under education this is causing the decline of the USA.

if we continue to outsource skilled manufacturing, research and software services to the third world then Australia and similar countries like it will be either be conquered or lay in their own ruins within 100 years.

Aidan wrote:But Australia is not becoming a service country. The service sector is big, as it is in every advanced economy, but we still do plenty of manufacturing. Indeed our manufacturing sector has expanded since the '80s as we began to see the importance of value adding. But then the growth of China's manufacturing industry meant that fabrication is no longer such a high value part of the process. And it's unlikely to be again for several decades, as there are many other countries that could take China's place. But contrary to popular belief, there's a lot more to manufacturing than just fabrication.

The other thing that happened was the mining boom making mining more attractive. And agriculture is likely to do quite well (at least until the next drought) so we're not overreliant on services at all.

Wayno wrote:

ricecrackers wrote:Anyone who lives in the Mitcham area and has had any dealings with them will know what i'm talking about.

i know what you mean!

Prince George wrote:BTW, who is Ian Smith?

AtD wrote:

Aidan wrote:But Australia is not becoming a service country. The service sector is big, as it is in every advanced economy, but we still do plenty of manufacturing. Indeed our manufacturing sector has expanded since the '80s as we began to see the importance of value adding. But then the growth of China's manufacturing industry meant that fabrication is no longer such a high value part of the process. And it's unlikely to be again for several decades, as there are many other countries that could take China's place. But contrary to popular belief, there's a lot more to manufacturing than just fabrication.

The other thing that happened was the mining boom making mining more attractive. And agriculture is likely to do quite well (at least until the next drought) so we're not overreliant on services at all.

Industry contirbution to GDP, 2009/10, $billions:

Agriculture, etc: 31
Mining: 84
Manufacturing: 104
Sum of service industries: 823

GDP: 1,224
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