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Glad to see the general support for UTC +9 from the clearly learned S-A community. I'd hoped this wouldn't get side-tracked in a daylight saving debate, but that's a minor quibble. Personally, I'm in favour of its retention.

Nathan, instead of removing DLS and everyone getting up an hour earlier during summer, why don't we keep DLS and you just get up an hour later?

One would imagine that NT would follow us if the change were to happen. Half-hour time zones are reasonably uncommon around the world, so I reckon NT would be happy to follow so long as we took the lead. Sad thing is that it would take a leader with far more stones than what we've seen recently to make a change like this. Imagine the controversy!

It does have some merit changing it to 9+, but would be a massive controversy here in Adelaide. Though the western half of the state would probably love the idea.

Maybe we should have a poll added?

Which timezone do you support for SA?...
9.5+ (current)
10+ (AEST)
9+
Undecided

nathan wrote:I much prefer the notion that people who want an extra hour in the evening to enjoy the sunshine should just instead start work an hour earlier.

Maximus wrote:Nathan, instead of removing DLS and everyone getting up an hour earlier during summer, why don't we keep DLS and you just get up an hour later?

Considering the first suggestion above, the second suggestion makes so much sense I would love to read a reply.

If I had pick one, I'd say go back 1/2 hour to +9UTC but keep DST in summer for 6 months.

Maximus wrote:Nathan, instead of removing DLS and everyone getting up an hour earlier during summer, why don't we keep DLS and you just get up an hour later?

rhino wrote:Considering the first suggestion above, the second suggestion makes so much sense I would love to read a reply.

I understand that suggestion since everyone is so attached to the status quo. My feeling though is that daylight saving is such an artificial construct, and that this silly changing of clocks is just a case of forced delusion. Why create a workaround to return to the original situation? Plus we wouldn't have to put up with newspaper letters to the editor pages being filled with people complaining about faded curtains every year, and that's a worthy cause on its own.

My dad never changed his watch for DLS and pretty much just led his life as if 'normal time' were in force during summer, save for the odd occasion where society forced him to acknowledge DLS -- e.g. an appointment with someone. So I do understand your point of view.

Nathan wrote:

Maximus wrote:Nathan, instead of removing DLS and everyone getting up an hour earlier during summer, why don't we keep DLS and you just get up an hour later?

rhino wrote:Considering the first suggestion above, the second suggestion makes so much sense I would love to read a reply.

I understand that suggestion since everyone is so attached to the status quo. My feeling though is that daylight saving is such an artificial construct, and that this silly changing of clocks is just a case of forced delusion. Why create a workaround to return to the original situation? Plus we wouldn't have to put up with newspaper letters to the editor pages being filled with people complaining about faded curtains every year, and that's a worthy cause on its own.

I's a trick, but it's one that seems to work well. The disruption is minimal and facilitates the "enjoyment of the extra sunshine" without businesses having to make process and systems changes.

I dont agree with the idea that we need to go to EST/EDST. I work closely with Vic and NSW colleagues and it's very rare that the 30 min difference is an issue. Just remember outlook automatically adjusts cal appointments lol.

Maximus wrote:My dad never changed his watch for DLS and pretty much just led his life as if 'normal time' were in force during summer, save for the odd occasion where society forced him to acknowledge DLS -- e.g. an appointment with someone. So I do understand your point of view.

I'm guessing your dad is a seinfield fan.

Hooligan wrote:

Maximus wrote:My dad never changed his watch for DLS and pretty much just led his life as if 'normal time' were in force during summer, save for the odd occasion where society forced him to acknowledge DLS -- e.g. an appointment with someone. So I do understand your point of view.

I'm guessing your dad is a seinfield fan.

Oh lord no! He hates all that "American rubbish". British comedy all the way!

[Shuz] wrote:If I had pick one, I'd say go back 1/2 hour to +9UTC but keep DST in summer for 6 months.

So if I understand correctly you are saying be in sync with New South Wales and Victoria for 6 months of the year, and an hour behind them for the rest of it? That actually seems like a pretty good solution.

I'm not aware of what the other states time zone arrangements are in full detail, but basically to put into context right at this very moment in time as I write this post (now 8:45am) it would be 8:15am, and then when we change the clocks in a couple of weeks time for DST it would be 9:15am for the next 6 months. Not sure how NSW or Victoria fit into that arrangement?

Basically the DST arrangements should just be as simple as taking effect on October 1st every year, and ending March 31st, regardless whether it's a weekday or weekend. None of this 2nd weekend in the month crap.