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Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:49 am
by Omicron
Wayno wrote:from the Independent Weekly
http://adelaide.yourguide.com.au/news/l ... 04373.html
Free peak hour public transport: Democrats
The South Australian Democrats have called for free public transport before 7.30am to reduce peak hour congestion.

Democrats MLC Sandra Kanck said SA should follow the Victorian initiative encouraging workers to start work earlier and avoid the rush.

She said traffic could be further reduced by extending the hours of operation of bus transit lanes, which currently end at 9am and 6pm.

"By extending this on selected roads - even by 30 minutes - the blockages on our main arterial roads could be reduced," Ms Kanck said.

She said Transport Minister Pat Conlon should not just focus on big projects but also on fine-tuning which could also ease traffic problems.
I am not getting up at 5am so that I can save two or three dollars on a bus ride before 7:30am. Incidentally, does Ms. Kanck know if this move would measurably increase public transport patronage, or merely result in existing customer numbers travelling for free?

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:44 am
by jimmy_2486
They do this in Victoria dont they?? I even heard recently Sydney is also thinking of implementing this....

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:27 pm
by rhino
Omicron wrote:
Wayno wrote:from the Independent Weekly
http://adelaide.yourguide.com.au/news/l ... 04373.html
Free peak hour public transport: Democrats
The South Australian Democrats have called for free public transport before 7.30am to reduce peak hour congestion.

Democrats MLC Sandra Kanck said SA should follow the Victorian initiative encouraging workers to start work earlier and avoid the rush.

She said traffic could be further reduced by extending the hours of operation of bus transit lanes, which currently end at 9am and 6pm.

"By extending this on selected roads - even by 30 minutes - the blockages on our main arterial roads could be reduced," Ms Kanck said.

She said Transport Minister Pat Conlon should not just focus on big projects but also on fine-tuning which could also ease traffic problems.

I am not getting up at 5am so that I can save two or three dollars on a bus ride before 7:30am. Incidentally, does Ms. Kanck know if this move would measurably increase public transport patronage, or merely result in existing customer numbers travelling for free?

Not to mention the effect this would have on families, and children in particular. Wake your kids up at 5:30am because they have to be in childcare in time for you to get on the public transport before 7:00am!

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:29 pm
by muzzamo
There are people out there that actually will get up that early. Oldies, in particular, will do it. Its a bit of a "trickle down effect", they leave a seat vacant a bit later on in the morning that is used by someone else etc

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:50 pm
by ozisnowman
Woes caused by decades of WOEFUL government with
inadequate spending both state and federal for SA
roads, rail and the like... and the most WOEFUL of them
all Don Dunstan who sold of the land acquired for the
MATS plan and used it to mostly fund art and festival
events etc... great forward thinking their you hillbilly.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:00 pm
by rhino
ozisnowman wrote:Woes caused by decades of WOEFUL government with
inadequate spending both state and federal for SA
roads, rail and the like... and the most WOEFUL of them
all Don Dunstan who sold of the land acquired for the
MATS plan and used it to mostly fund art and festival
events etc... great forward thinking their you hillbilly.
Actually, the Dunstan Government shelved the MATS plan but held on to the land in case the plan was re-instated later on. It was David Tonkin's Government that totally finished it by selling the land.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:15 pm
by monotonehell
ozisnowman wrote:Woes caused by decades of WOEFUL government with
inadequate spending both state and federal for SA
roads, rail and the like... and the most WOEFUL of them
all Don Dunstan who sold of the land acquired for the
MATS plan and used it to mostly fund art and festival
events etc... great forward thinking their you hillbilly.
I'd suggest you hold back the vitriol until you get your facts straight. Don Dustan did a lot of good for the image of South Australia and was a very forward thinking and 'modern' premier. He took over from a very conservative government. The arts is an important thing to fund, look at what Adelaide is well known for these days. Dunstan put aside the MATS plan due to overwhelming public opposition. It's a good thing he did, but a bad thing that subsequent govts. sold some of the corridors.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:19 pm
by jimmy_2486
lol, this MATS debate will never end wont it!!

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:16 am
by Shuz
Well, theres one thing we can all agree on and that is that the North/South freeway should have been built, when it was available! As for the rest, they were just piddly extensions to make Adelaide look like some mini-LA in the making, which is not what we would have wanted.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:48 pm
by monotonehell
Shuz wrote:Well, theres one thing we can all agree on and that is that the North/South freeway should have been built...
I disagree! :lol:

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:26 pm
by muzzamo
little bit off topic but sydney have just announced a $12 BILLION metro line.

Thats some real public transport :-)
http://www.sydlink.com.au/site/page.cfm

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:37 pm
by monotonehell
muzzamo wrote:little bit off topic but sydney have just announced a $12 BILLION metro line.

Thats some real public transport :-)
http://www.sydlink.com.au/site/page.cfm
Oooh perdy virtual tour... *watches* I love how the train only has 5 people on it and the next one is 3mins away. *coughbollockscough* But I love glass enclosed platforms with sliding doors. They are teh awesome. I've seen a few around the World and they work well, good safety measure as well as air conditioning measure.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:30 pm
by Shuz
So is that entire line underground?

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:39 pm
by AG
Shuz wrote:So is that entire line underground?
Most of it, probably not quite all of it. The western part of the line between Epping and Rouse Hill has been in planning as a separate line for quite a while, originally to follow on from the current Chatswood to Epping line that will begin to operate in 2008. Now it looks as if it would be incorporated into part of the new line via the inner west direct to Wynyard. Strange sort of metro though, most metros have stations closer together than usual commuter rail services, it seems to be the other way around in the plans. It's going to be interesting to see how they reconfigure the existing Wynyard Station as it is already has several levels of tunnels as well as how they will avoid some of the half built abandoned tunnels. For too long there's been too much emphasis on funnelling services down the inner west corridor between Redfern and Strathfield.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:28 am
by Norman
I want one here too 8)