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I think in the Port's case - although yes there should be a mix of old and new, the balance should definitely sway towards old. That's certainly the only reason I would head down there, if at all.

New developments have to be sensitive to the surroundings, why not utilise old materials, retrofit old buildings etc , rather than the Mawson Lakes style crap that has thankfully been put on hold.

Cities such as Hobart, Aukland, Wellington, which have fantastic lively waterfronts, have something that Port Adelaide does not: The major city centre is right there. Rather than try to make Port Adelaide like them, I think we should be looking at a place like Fremantle (which I admit I have not seen for many years) and figure out what they did right there. Port Adelaide does not have the daytime population of workers that waterfront cities have, so we need to look at a successful port precinct that is not backed by a major commercial area, and work out what made it successful.

rhino wrote:Port Adelaide does not have the daytime population of workers that waterfront cities have, so we need to look at a successful port precinct that is not backed by a major commercial area, and work out what made it successful.

Well, exactly.

The appeal of the Port will ultimately be that it is a hip/characterful place to live for city workers* (who would have multiple, quality connections to the city). I've always thought that the Port could become hip again by leveraging its history and derelict condition as a cheap (if not free) and inspirational place for artists and other creative types to practise. Soon, people will want to be part of the buzz of the place. Gentrification 101. It's worked in Berlin and countless other places, and we already have an organisation (Renew Adelaide) capable of facilitating the transition.

Concurrent investment in public and social infrastructure is part of the mix. For instance, enhancing the Port's maritime credentials with the return of the City of Adelaide and perhaps the building of a state aquarium. Maybe utilising the Hart's Mill as an exhibition space or arts institute to encourage such a community in the area.

It's as much about rehabilitating the Port's image as building the places for people to live. Else, they won't want to live there.

*Saying that, I don't mean to down play the attraction of the Port to the many workers in nearby industry. For instance, workers in the defence tech firms with an expanding presence at LeFevre Peninsula, Mawson Lakes and Endiburgh.

"Newport Quays was awarded a contract in 2002 to develop 51 ha of waterfront land and attract up to 4000 people to the Port".

How a contract was awarded to simply dump zillions of tacky apartments on the finges of Port Adelaide with no regard for the lack of infrastructure, god only knows. 'Development' in Adelaide seems to consist of apartments, carparks and Mawson Lake's style residential cul de sacs...had the government concentrated on the development of the mill and the wharves as tourist destinations first (or further promoted it as an Arts precinct), the people would have come and the demand for housing created. Doing it in reverse has simply lessened the value of the area.

rhino wrote:Cities such as Hobart, Aukland, Wellington, which have fantastic lively waterfronts, have something that Port Adelaide does not: The major city centre is right there. Rather than try to make Port Adelaide like them, I think we should be looking at a place like Fremantle (which I admit I have not seen for many years) and figure out what they did right there. Port Adelaide does not have the daytime population of workers that waterfront cities have, so we need to look at a successful port precinct that is not backed by a major commercial area, and work out what made it successful.

I'm of the same mindset, backed by something other than commercial. The remaining New Port site should be turned into a huge multilevel retirement/lifestyle village for (over 55's), bowling greens, cinemas, everything a cashed up retiree wants, then they head to the Port to spend all their money. This would also help to fill up the almost empty marina with their boats as they're so cheap you can almost give them away now.

eKwatee wrote:

rhino wrote:Cities such as Hobart, Aukland, Wellington, which have fantastic lively waterfronts, have something that Port Adelaide does not: The major city centre is right there. Rather than try to make Port Adelaide like them, I think we should be looking at a place like Fremantle (which I admit I have not seen for many years) and figure out what they did right there. Port Adelaide does not have the daytime population of workers that waterfront cities have, so we need to look at a successful port precinct that is not backed by a major commercial area, and work out what made it successful.

I'm of the same mindset, backed by something other than commercial. The remaining New Port site should be turned into a huge multilevel retirement/lifestyle village for (over 55's), bowling greens, cinemas, everything a cashed up retiree wants, then they head to the Port to spend all their money. This would also help to fill up the almost empty marina with their boats as they're so cheap you can almost give them away now.

You people are weird. Shut up and let development happen. So sick of living so far behind when we live in what's apparently one of the great nations of the world. Development is inevitable. That's it. Period.

Stefan wrote: let development happen. So sick of living so far behind when we live in what's apparently one of the great nations of the world. Development is inevitable. That's it. Period.

Yeah, good one Stefan. Got your finger on the pulse there, haven't you?

You should get down to the Port and have a look at how much development isn't happening. The suggestions you mock are about how to get it happening.

This is my first post on your forum. I'm from Sunderland in the UK and have visited your fine city a couple of times in the past. I'm not sure if I am posting in the right thread however it interested me as the revitalisation of Port Adelaide seems to rely on the restoration of the Adelaide clipper ship. You may be aware that the ship was built in Sunderland which was once the biggest ship building town in Europe.
There is a group in Sunderland (SCARF) who are very keen on bringing the clipper back to Sunderland however they don't seem to have a coherent plan to finance this. They are relying on Adelaide not having the funds to restore it.
I'm quite open minded about it and whilst I would love to see it returned to Sunderland and restored, if the only realistic way of preserving this piece of our heritage is to transport it to Australia then I will support it.
Is the Adelaide plan viable or is it still unfunded? Do the people of Adelaide want to see the clipper return to Oz?
I'd rather see us work together to preserve a fine piece of maritime history than squabble and see it rot away.

Hi RN

there is a thread about it http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... r&start=15

however it isn't esxactly on topic!

I believe there is enough cash for the work to be completed, but we are still awaiting news of the clipper arriving.

more news can be found

http://cityofadelaide.org.au/

I believe this has government backing, and is important for the Port Adelaide, both historically and economically. There are well advanced plans for a commercial and tourism hub centred around the restored ship, as Waewick mentioned all that is waiting is confirmation that the ship is suitable to be transported safely to Adelaide (apparently there were serious concerns around that).

Full props to the Sunderland residents for having the foresight not to demolish the wreck. At least there is still a chance to save this ship.

Port centre pop up shops plan

TEMPORARY art galleries and vintage boutiques would be able to move into empty shops - for free - in the latest plan to rejuvenate Port Adelaide.

The Commission for Integrated Design, Urban Renewal Authority and Premier Jay Weatherill’s office are calling for landlords and would-be entrepreneurs after recently announcing the Port Renewal Project.

The scheme would allow potential business owners to set up shop in an empty site rent free until it is tenanted permanently.

The project, which aims to liven up main streets, has been trialled successfully in Adelaide’s CBD and Prospect Rd, and was inspired by a similar program in Newcastle.

more: http://portside-messenger.whereilive.co ... hops-plan/

Waewick wrote:Hi RN

there is a thread about it http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... r&start=15

however it isn't esxactly on topic!

I believe there is enough cash for the work to be completed, but we are still awaiting news of the clipper arriving.

more news can be found

http://cityofadelaide.org.au/

Thanks for the reply. At least Adelaide seems to have a plan and a vision for what they intend to do with it. At the moment we just seem to have a bloke who has his holidays on the ship in some sort of protest.
How far is Port Adelaide from the centre and is it easily accesible by public transport. I've visited Adelaide twice in the nineties and stayed in Glenelg and also with friends in a place called Highbury(?) outside of Adelaide. I don't think I ever visited Port Adelaide.

don't worry, I live in Adelaide and I have only ever driven through it probably 3 times. never stopped really.

easily accessible via road and rail I believe so you can get their via PT.

I think your choice in location was good (Glenelg) but next time your over venture down and let us all know how it is.

Port Adelaide Fan wrote:Port centre pop up shops plan

TEMPORARY art galleries and vintage boutiques would be able to move into empty shops - for free - in the latest plan to rejuvenate Port Adelaide.

The Commission for Integrated Design, Urban Renewal Authority and Premier Jay Weatherill’s office are calling for landlords and would-be entrepreneurs after recently announcing the Port Renewal Project.

The scheme would allow potential business owners to set up shop in an empty site rent free until it is tenanted permanently.

The project, which aims to liven up main streets, has been trialled successfully in Adelaide’s CBD and Prospect Rd, and was inspired by a similar program in Newcastle.

more: http://portside-messenger.whereilive.co ... hops-plan/

Excellent news! I've been arguing for this approach for too long, so I'm glad to see that the idea has finally found support.

Public Transport to Port Adelaide

Bus 150 from the city.
http://timetables.adelaidemetro.com.au/ ... ttable.pdf

Get the Outer Harbor train to Port Adelaide.
http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/assets/ ... 120302.pdf

more:
http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/