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Nort
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by Nort » Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:43 am
NTRabbit wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:23 pm
rev wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:50 pm
Not sure why people are celebrating this, regardless of their "emotions" connected to a pub.
This is a terrible outcome, and sets a terrible precedent. Then again this is South Australia where most people can't see past their own self interests regardless of the bigger costs/negatives down the track.
They are celebrating because it was, in fact, a great outcome
It's a better outcome than the Crown And Anchor being demolished, but remains to be seen what sort of precedent it sets.
Propose something with a high chance of getting knocked back in approvals, and make it controversial enough that the government steps in and offers to help push it through approvals if you give concessions to them.
If the development as it was would have been approved and built this yes, this is a better outcome. However it's also possible that it wouldn't have been approved and we have been played with a terrible precedent set.
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by abc » Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:19 pm
well maybe they should've heritage listed it, that's the correct process
however its a bit late for that now
tired of low IQ hacks
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by rev » Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:09 pm
NTRabbit wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:23 pm
rev wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:50 pm
Not sure why people are celebrating this, regardless of their "emotions" connected to a pub.
This is a terrible outcome, and sets a terrible precedent. Then again this is South Australia where most people can't see past their own self interests regardless of the bigger costs/negatives down the track.
They are celebrating because it was, in fact, a great outcome
Great outcome if the only concern is saving a building and venue, sure agreed definitely a great outcome in that regard.
Great outcome in the sense we've now got government intervention in private developments and legislation being put to parliament, not so great.
For those who complain about developers being in bed with government, congratulations you've just helped create an atmosphere where more of that will happen.
Anyhow, its done now.
Is that the government's render or the developers?
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by Bobski » Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:00 pm
Cranker development owner makes student accommodation ‘exit’
Singapore-based Wee Hur Holdings has sold its Australian student accommodation portfolio for $1.6 billion after the company flagged it anticipated softer demand for the property type when international student caps kick in next year.
Wee Hur Holdings announced this week that it sold its Australian purpose-built student accommodation (PBSA) portfolio to a US real estate investment firm for $1.6 billion.
But the company maintains ownership of the Crown & Anchor Hotel as the property was not included in the divestment. The implications for the 19-storey student tower project are unclear, with the company previously flagging an anticipated softer international student market from 2025. Wee Hur did not respond to questions from InDaily about the project today.
Under the sale, Wee Hur retains a 13 per cent stake in the portfolio of seven properties in Australia – including two student accommodation projects in Adelaide: Y Suites City Gardens and Y Suites on Waymouth.
The sale to US-based Greystar also includes one UniLodge in Brisbane, two Y Suites in Sydney, one development in Melbourne and a property in Canberra.
Wee Hur Holdings is the company behind the proposed student accommodation tower that has secured permission to rise next to the historic Crown & Anchor Hotel.
InDaily is not suggesting the company has abandoned the Grenfell Street student accommodation project at this time.
But the divestment follows Wee Hur telling shareholders in August that it anticipated a softer international student market moving forward because of planned international student caps, proposed by the federal government to commence in 2025, and comes amid “several challenges” for its PBSA portfolio.
The company’s initial plan for the Crown & Anchor site included “partial demolition” of the pub, leaving just the façade to make way for a 19-storey student apartment tower.
The plan sparked significant public backlash and led to a community-driven campaign to “save” the beloved East End pub.
The state government eventually intervened and announced a historic deal to rescue the pub. Special-purpose legislation was then passed to protect the Cranker from ever being demolished and to confirm its continued use as a pub and live music venue.
Wee Hur then lodged a development application (DA) for a revised student accommodation tower that would avoid demolishing the Cranker but would see hospitality venues Roxies and Chateau Apollo razed to make way for the project. The pub would also close for two years during the build, and the band room would be renovated over that time.
That DA received planning consent by the State Planning Commission on 21 October 2024, subject to conditions. Building consent and final development approval are still required.
Earlier this year, InDaily reported the pub’s two-year closure was likely from April 2024, but as the Cranker’s publican has not been given notice to leave that date has been pushed out until at least mid-year.
In a press release about the divestment, Wee Hur described the deal as an “exit” from the PBSA portfolio in Australia. The company stressed it was now focused on its new “core” business.
“The net proceeds from this divestment will replenish Wee Hur’s financial war chest, enabling the group to reallocate capital strategically,” Wee Hur said.
“This includes reinvesting in existing businesses or exploring high-growth areas such as Wee Hur’s new core business, KK39, which focuses on venture capital, private equity, and private credit investments.
“By diversifying its portfolio, Wee Hur aims to strengthen its position as a forward-looking, dynamic enterprise poised for sustainable growth.”
Managing director Goh Yeow Lian said the divestment “lays the foundation for Wee Hur’s next chapter, enabling us to strengthen our core business and capitalise new growth opportunities to ensure continued value creation for all stakeholders”.
InDaily sent questions to Wee Hur’s managing director Lian and Australian general manager Peter Scott about whether the company was committed to the Grenfell Street project in light of the portfolio divestment, whether the company would sell the property, and whether the recent changes to South Australian planning law had any weight on the company’s decision to divest the portfolio. InDaily did not receive a response by deadline.
If Wee Hur were to issue the six-month notice to vacate today, for example, the Cranker would close in mid-June.
This would put construction on track for a mid-2027 completion date, meaning the company would miss out on the tower being open in time for the launch of the new Adelaide University, set to open in 2026.
Further trepidation from Wee Hur is evident in the company’s first half 2024 financial report. The company’s update on its Australian business mentioned PBSA portfolio “resilience despite several challenges”. The outlook is softer too due to the proposed Federal Government international student caps.
“The PBSA sector experienced a soft demand, correlating with a nearly one-third decline in student visa approvals during the first four months of 2024,” Wee Hur said.
“The Australian Government has introduced a draft framework proposing a soft cap, effective from 2025, on international student enrolments for each education provider, which will directly affect the demand for purpose-built student accommodation beds.”
For Cranker proprietor Tom Skipper, the delays in receiving the notice to vacate are stressful, especially considering he is attempting to find a temporary home for the pub and its staff during the two-year closure.
“The stress is real, but I can only control what I can control,” he told InDaily.
“Until the time that the notification is given then I can’t move forward with confidence on anything else as a secondary option.
“The indicators point that there’s going to be serious delays going forward.”
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by Nort » Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:37 am
My guess would be that this site becomes a higher end residential development.
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by ChillyPhilly » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:23 pm
Appreciating this bit of air space for as long as it's there.

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by Nort » Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:16 pm
Cranker has announced that July is the close date.
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by Mpol02 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:14 pm
So this project won out in the end?
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by Algernon » Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:24 pm
Nort wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:16 pm
Cranker has announced that July is the close date.
That's fucked.
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by Bobski » Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:24 pm
I believe they had already planned to relocate for approx 2 years while the development was built (before Wee Hur divested). If they found a suitable place they probably decided to go ahead with the move for some kind of business stability/security rather than risk having to shift at short notice.
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by Nort » Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:29 am
Bobski wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:24 pm
I believe they had already planned to relocate for approx 2 years while the development was built before Wee Hur divested. Probably decided to go ahead with the move for some kind of business security rather than risk having to shift at short notice if the new owners want to get started quickly. [Hopefully they do and it doesn't just sit there empty for years and become another Wright St Hotel]
Part of their announcement is that the 24 months starts in July, so seems like that's the move out date the developer has given them.
I understand the lack of a heritage reason for keeping it, but losing Roxie's hurts. It's a unique venue in the city, and also works really well as an extension of the Ebeneezer Place precinct. A big loss.
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by HiTouch » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:21 am
Nort wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:29 am
Bobski wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:24 pm
I believe they had already planned to relocate for approx 2 years while the development was built before Wee Hur divested. Probably decided to go ahead with the move for some kind of business security rather than risk having to shift at short notice if the new owners want to get started quickly. [Hopefully they do and it doesn't just sit there empty for years and become another Wright St Hotel]
Part of their announcement is that the 24 months starts in July, so seems like that's the move out date the developer has given them.
I understand the lack of a heritage reason for keeping it, but losing Roxie's hurts. It's a unique venue in the city, and also works really well as an extension of the Ebeneezer Place precinct. A big loss.
Losing Roxie's is brutal. Such a good place to escape to when you're over the hype of Rundle St during the Fringe time. Chatteau Apollo is also a great rustic venue. Do developers ever do market research these days? In fact, do they even know who already occupies the spaces they purchase?
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by [Shuz] » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:39 am
Just to be clear.
Chateau Apollo and Roxies is getting demolished.
The Cranker is not getting demolished.
The Cranker is simply closing down for 2 years and then will reopen, most likely under new management. The legislation specifies that it has to operate as a pub / live music venue and for no other commercial purpose.
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by Nort » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:47 am
[Shuz] wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:39 am
Just to be clear.
Chateau Apollo and Roxies is getting demolished.
The Cranker is not getting demolished.
The Cranker is simply closing down for 2 years and then will reopen, most likely under new management. The legislation specifies that it has to operate as a pub / live music venue and for no other commercial purpose.
Where do you get the bit about new management being clear?
The current management is planning to try and do another temp venue for two years, and have first right to take the lease in two years time.
Definitely not guaranteed they'll make it though.
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