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[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:33 pm
by SouthAussie94
I guess that settles the debate I had with my girlfriend a few years ago.. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4669

I win! :)

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:53 pm
by Phantom
SouthAussie94 wrote:I guess that settles the debate I had with my girlfriend a few years ago.. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4669

I win! :)
I'm assuming that at the age of 21, you're probably no longer with the same girlfriend, mate? :P

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:17 pm
by Norman
I think the station itself is set back enough to allow for partial acquisition enough to support the southern elevated road.

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:02 pm
by drsmith
It might also depend on which side the corridor at that location is to be expanded.

As to whether or not properties are being snapped up for the necessary upgrades as they come on the market, that might be an indication of the intent to complete the overall expressway by 2025.

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:58 am
by SouthAussie94
Phantom wrote:
SouthAussie94 wrote:I guess that settles the debate I had with my girlfriend a few years ago.. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4669

I win! :)
I'm assuming that at the age of 21, you're probably no longer with the same girlfriend, mate? :P
I actually am! She had a bit of a laugh when I showed her your comment..

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:09 am
by Phantom
SouthAussie94 wrote:
Phantom wrote:
SouthAussie94 wrote:I guess that settles the debate I had with my girlfriend a few years ago.. viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4669

I win! :)
I'm assuming that at the age of 21, you're probably no longer with the same girlfriend, mate? :P
I actually am! She had a bit of a laugh when I showed her your comment..
Glad to know it didn't get you in trouble! Happy "More than 3 years" by the way!

EDIT - 400 posts. Not one of them quality.

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:36 pm
by OlympusAnt
Ben wrote:Wow what a complete joke the SA government is. WTF!!! How and why have they approved this. This land should be kept for the future stages or even used now to improve this terrible intersection of Daws and South. Between this site and the Emerson overpass there are about 10 parcels of land for sale. Why are the government not buying them now??
So that's what they're doing there, sigh. :applause: :applause: :applause:

That intersection is a bottleneck and a half.

Worst intersections from my experience

1. Daws Rd/South Rd
2. Unley Rd/Arthur St/Oxford Tce
3. Fullarton Rd/Cross Rd
4. Blackwood Roundabout
5. Fullarton Rd/The Parade

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:46 am
by ChillyPhilly
With regard to why the Government isn't buying properties along South Road from now: I think it'll simply be cheaper later. Land values can rise approaching the time a project is due or announced, but then this value declines as the amenity does due to construction and then the completed development and its impacts.

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:36 pm
by Goodsy
Bolivar Road/PWR intersection has a completletion date of August 2016 on the sign and a site office is being erected there now.

There was a crew surveying around the PWR/Northern Connector interchange today as well so I assume that has something to do with the northern connector

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:13 pm
by Llessur2002
Ah, this went away for a while but now it's back:

http://infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__data/ ... lement.pdf

Lots of interesting info in here if you haven't already read it - including addition of extra on/off ramps just north of Port Road, the preliminary design for the rail overpass and open spaces, greenway improvements along the rail line from South Road to Coglin Street etc.

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:08 pm
by metro
The rail overpass seems to look interesting, much better than just a bland concrete structure, but I really wish the govt ignored the residents/whingers of Croydon who didnt want a new train station, with the road and train line grade separated. I think the govt should just close the rail level crossing on Queen Street anyway, perhaps make it only for pedestrians and cyclists and make the drivers detour down Euston and Day tce and pass under the train bridge at South Rd :lol: :twisted:

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:37 pm
by Nathan
metro wrote:The rail overpass seems to look interesting, much better than just a bland concrete structure, but I really wish the govt ignored the residents/whingers of Croydon who didnt want a new train station, with the road and train line grade separated. I think the govt should just close the rail level crossing on Queen Street anyway, perhaps make it only for pedestrians and cyclists and make the drivers detour down Euston and Day tce and pass under the train bridge at South Rd :lol: :twisted:
I was going to say the same thing (again). It's absolute lunacy for a rail overpass to return to grade literally metres before a level crossing.

On a positive, looks like someone came to their senses with the bikeway continuing to follow the rail line east after South Rd, instead of forcing everyone to go down the spiral ramp to

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:02 pm
by ChillyPhilly
I like what I see from that document. I think the rail overpass design is pretty neat too. Love the brickwork, it'll reflect the area and Bowden beyond.

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:04 pm
by Llessur2002
I think we've been here before but.....

Whilst I fully support separation of rail and road where feasible, as a resident/whinger of Croydon I still think that there are special circumstances around this particular level crossing which were taken into account when the decision was made to return the line to grade before the crossing. Extending the overpass over Queen/Elizabeth Street would have meant a relocation of Croydon Station - the options were either moving it east pretty much to where the overpass meets South Road, or keeping it where it is but elevated.

Either way, the station would have ended up elevated. Aside from it's location outside of the main centre, this is one of the main reasons people have an issue with using Port Adelaide railway station - there are perceived safety issues and it seems people can't be bothered with climbing stairs or ramps. It is very difficult to integrate things that aren't at ground level into a human-friendly environment - look at all the elevated things built in the 60s which just failed because it turns out that people didn't want to be elevated. Croydon station forms a key part of the individual Croydon 'hub' - the station, the park, the shops and the cafes. Removing the station would remove part of this hub and its unique 'village' atmosphere.

Personally, I think it was the correct decision to keep the station in-situ - its presence will also help to deter rat-runners from using Queen Street as a shortcut to/from Port Road. But I'd also be tentatively supportive of closing the crossing to vehicles completely if there is a genuine and proven safety risk in this particular location.

On a more positive note, I do really like the design of the overpass. I hope the final design doesn't get watered-down into a pre-formed concrete eyesore like the South Road tram overpass.

[U/C] Re: News & Discussion: South Road / North-South Corridor

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:24 pm
by claybro
What if the elevated station allied for small shops or cafes underneath facing the park. A proper little village green with an elevated rail