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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:53 pm
by electrictechron
Simo00083 wrote:Are there any developments in a possible American route to Adelaide? Which airline and route would take Adelaide on?
I would think Delta or America because Delta and American both have orders for the A350-900 next year which can reach here from LA. I also know the 777-200LR can reach here, so Delta could also use that.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 9:01 pm
by Stefan P
electrictechron wrote:
Simo00083 wrote:Are there any developments in a possible American route to Adelaide? Which airline and route would take Adelaide on?
I would think Delta or America because Delta and American both have orders for the A350-900 next year which can reach here from LA. I also know the 777-200LR can reach here, so Delta could also use that.
United can do it with their B787-9's. I would say United will be the front runner to start Adelaide services whether it be direct or via Melbourne or even Auckland.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 12:35 am
by alexczarn
Stefan P wrote:
electrictechron wrote:
Simo00083 wrote:Are there any developments in a possible American route to Adelaide? Which airline and route would take Adelaide on?
I would think Delta or America because Delta and American both have orders for the A350-900 next year which can reach here from LA. I also know the 777-200LR can reach here, so Delta could also use that.
United can do it with their B787-9's. I would say United will be the front runner to start Adelaide services whether it be direct or via Melbourne or even Auckland.
I heard rumours of United, although Delta would tie in nicely with the Virgin network.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:43 am
by ghs
Could Adelaide become a hub / gateway for people from Perth wanting to go the US ?

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:38 am
by electrictechron
Stefan P wrote:
electrictechron wrote:
Simo00083 wrote:Are there any developments in a possible American route to Adelaide? Which airline and route would take Adelaide on?
I would think Delta or America because Delta and American both have orders for the A350-900 next year which can reach here from LA. I also know the 777-200LR can reach here, so Delta could also use that.
United can do it with their B787-9's. I would say United will be the front runner to start Adelaide services whether it be direct or via Melbourne or even Auckland.
Wouldn't it be easier to just use Air New Zealand or Qantas/Virgin to YMML/NZAA?

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:09 am
by floplo
ghs wrote:Could Adelaide become a hub / gateway for people from Perth wanting to go the US ?
Brisbane makes more sense as a hub for that direction

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:43 am
by ghs
floplo wrote:
ghs wrote:Could Adelaide become a hub / gateway for people from Perth wanting to go the US ?
Brisbane makes more sense as a hub for that direction
If you fly from Perth to Brisbane it takes a whole day so you then have to stay overnight in Brisbane which is not ideal.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:43 pm
by Splashmo
ghs wrote:If you fly from Perth to Brisbane it takes a whole day so you then have to stay overnight in Brisbane which is not ideal.
It takes nowhere near a whole day. 4h 20m from Perth to Brisbane - only 90 minutes longer than a trip from Perth to Adelaide, and then you're 90 minutes closer to the USA.

As far as getting a direct air route to the USA from Adelaide, I don't see it happening anytime soon, and if it did, then it would have to be paired with Sydney/Melbourne/Auckland/Christchurch or something I think. I think we'd sooner see Thailand, Vietnam, the Philippines or Fiji, let alone Hobart.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:52 pm
by Simo00083
Why can't Adelaide get a direct daily flight to LA? Firstly LA has a population of 18 million Adelaide 1.4? Everyone loves travelling to the states and is south Aussies have to travel to Melbourne or Sydney which as extra hours onto the journey. Only looking for what 300 people per day on a flight? Inbound would be solid America loves Aussies!

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:06 pm
by Ben
Splashmo wrote:
ghs wrote:If you fly from Perth to Brisbane it takes a whole day so you then have to stay overnight in Brisbane which is not ideal.
It takes nowhere near a whole day. 4h 20m from Perth to Brisbane - only 90 minutes longer than a trip from Perth to Adelaide, and then you're 90 minutes closer to the USA.

As far as getting a direct air route to the USA from Adelaide, I don't see it happening anytime soon, and if it did, then it would have to be paired with Sydney/Melbourne/Auckland/Christchurch or something I think. I think we'd sooner see Thailand, Vietnam, the Philippines or Fiji, let alone Hobart.
It's 5 and half hours actually ;)

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:19 pm
by electrictechron
Ben wrote:
Splashmo wrote:
ghs wrote:If you fly from Perth to Brisbane it takes a whole day so you then have to stay overnight in Brisbane which is not ideal.
It takes nowhere near a whole day. 4h 20m from Perth to Brisbane - only 90 minutes longer than a trip from Perth to Adelaide, and then you're 90 minutes closer to the USA.

As far as getting a direct air route to the USA from Adelaide, I don't see it happening anytime soon, and if it did, then it would have to be paired with Sydney/Melbourne/Auckland/Christchurch or something I think. I think we'd sooner see Thailand, Vietnam, the Philippines or Fiji, let alone Hobart.
It's 5 and half hours actually ;)
Done it before in the flight simulator and it can vary from 4 hours and 45 minutes to 5 and a half hours. PER to ADL takes 2 and a half hours.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:31 pm
by ghs
You have take into account the 2 hour time difference between Brisbane and Perth. If you leave Perth at 730am in the morning you arrive in
Brisbane at around 2pm. The 2 flights from Brisbane to Los Angeles both leave in the morning so you then have to stay overnight.

Adelaide could have a flight to LA leaving around 1pm. Travellers from Perth could leave at 630am and then arrive in Adelaide at around 1050am.
It would be a long trip for them but it could be feasible.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:32 pm
by electrictechron
ghs wrote:You have take into account the 2 hour time difference between Brisbane and Perth. If you leave Perth at 730am in the morning you arrive in
Brisbane at around 2pm. The 2 flights from Brisbane to Los Angeles both leave in the morning so you then have to stay overnight.

Adelaide could have a flight to LA leaving around 1pm. Travellers from Perth could leave at 630am and then arrive in Adelaide at around 1050am.
It would be a long trip for them but it could be feasible.
The A380/777 gate would also be free so there won't be any worries about that either.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:40 pm
by electrictechron
777-300ER (American) range: 7,830 nm
787-9 range (United): 7,635 nm range
The 777-200LR (Delta) is higher range than the 300-ER.

YPAD/KLAX distance is 7161 nm via a route made on a flight sim website.
I don't think aircraft would be a problem, the only problem right now is whether the route will actually be viable.

Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:36 pm
by Norman
ghs wrote:You have take into account the 2 hour time difference between Brisbane and Perth. If you leave Perth at 730am in the morning you arrive in
Brisbane at around 2pm. The 2 flights from Brisbane to Los Angeles both leave in the morning so you then have to stay overnight.

Adelaide could have a flight to LA leaving around 1pm. Travellers from Perth could leave at 630am and then arrive in Adelaide at around 1050am.
It would be a long trip for them but it could be feasible.
An overnight flight is what people probably do then. Leave Perth at 11pm and arrive in Brisbane at 5.30am, with an onward connection.