News & Discussion: Other Metropolitan Developments

[EBG]

Demolition of 9-13 Dequetteville Tce is 3/4 done with only the small 2 story office of Projectworx to be demolished (the Crownchase and Illuka buildings have been demolished).

[A-Town]

Transit-oriented developments are (finally) back on the cards.

Housing Minister Nick Champion wants apartment towers at public transport hubs

It is believed three suburbs could be first in line in Nick Champion’s plan to push ahead with a “farsighted” strategy for high-density apartment towers that stalled 14 years ago.

High-density apartment towers would be spread to key parts of Adelaide’s suburbs under plans from the new “super” Housing Minister to ease the housing crisis by boosting supply.

Declaring he would kickstart stalled plans for high-rise developments at public transport hubs, Housing Minister Nick Champion insisted these apartments would ease pressure on suburban streets caused by infill development.

Mr Champion, who has moved to allow towers of up to 20 storeys at inner-eastern Glenside, pinpointed parklands fringe areas, particularly Thebarton and Hindmarsh, as ripe for high-density development.

In an interview with The Advertiser, Mr Champion said greenfield development and high-density “strategic infill” were “where you get your big hits in supply” and the government was “committed to enabling that”.

Suburban high-rise developments would be concentrated at public transport hubs, reviving 14-year-old plans for “transit-oriented developments” (TODs) by the Rann Labor government that delivered only the Bowden estate on the former Clipsal factory site.

It is understood Smithfield, Aldinga and Noarlunga are among the first areas to be targeted under Mr Champion’s renewed TODs agenda.

“I think it was, for its time, an amazingly farsighted plan and the Rann government did all that really future-looking work, Mr Champion said.

“What we didn’t do is implement it – so this is all about implementing that and there will be a renewed focus on transport-oriented developments.

“We know that this works, because particularly we can get large allotments of land where there is already public transport, and you can then sweat that infrastructure and make use of it.

“ … That’s a big opportunity for Adelaide to grow. We’ve got to make sure that we have the appropriate level of density on those transport-oriented developments and, obviously, the areas of strategic infill that are close to the city.”

Premier Peter Malinauskas handed Mr Champion a “new housing super portfolio” in an April 15 ministerial reshuffle, charging him with co-ordinating efforts to pull “every lever to build more homes”.

Mr Champion said high-rise apartments would attract buyers and renters including downsizers, young professionals and working-class people, depending on the area.

The 30-Year Plan for Greater Adelaide, released in 2010, recommended TODs at Noarlunga, Bedford Park, Oaklands, Glenelg, Keswick, Adelaide City, Bowden, Woodville, West Lakes, Port Adelaide, Modbury, Mawson Lakes, Salisbury and Elizabeth.

Signalling another housing policy shift, Mr Champion told The Advertiser there had been an unhealthy “over-reliance” on general suburban infill, or tightly built medium-density homes, placing pressure on carparking and infrastructure.

“The point I’d make is that every house in the air, every apartment in the air, is one less in a crowded suburban street,” he said.

“ … We want to get general infill right, we want to make sure it delivers better for the community. But if we’re having a functioning market, like a good market, we want to have the right amount of strategic infill, the right amount of general infill and the right amount of greenfield and getting that balance right is going to be a challenge.”

Asked about scope for high-rise residential development at major shopping centres, Mr Champion predicted these would “slowly evolve into a more mixed-use model because it makes sense to have people living where your shops are” – and near public transport.

There was scope for higher-density development along parts of the Adelaide parklands fringes, he said, pointing to plans for more than 1000 homes at Thebarton’s former West End Brewery site.

“We’ve got to look at this interaction between the edge of the boulevards and the parklands because we’ve got this great social asset. There is not a city around the world that’s designed like this and we’ve managed to be able to keep the integrity and the precious nature of it,” he said.

Asked if he would respond to developers’ demands to boost supply by releasing land outside Adelaide’s urban growth boundary, Mr Champion was noncommittal and highlighted the Greater Adelaide Regional Plan now open for consultation.

Mr Champion said regulatory barriers to converting CBD offices to homes had been removed but adapting them for sufficient carparking, disability access, natural light and other standards had been prohibitively challenging.

It's interesting that Aldinga has been listed as a preferred area for a TOD. Does this mean we may see rail extended to Aldinga in the near future?

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... 1713685355

[Eurostar]

If a TOD is built at around the Smithfield station they might want to grade seperate Anderson Walk and widen Anderson Walk. Extending Davoren Road to Main North Road/Uley Road intersection would also provide an alternative east-west link to Curtis Road.

[eKwatee]

$100m tourism destination “The Break” to offer wave lagoon surfing, accommodation and more

Located on 7.1 hectares of land at Tuit Road, Aldinga, just 40 minutes from Adelaide, ‘The Break’ promises to offer an world-class experience with a wave lagoon surfing, accommodation, wellness amenities, and beachside activities. Framed by native vegetation and designed by award-winning local architects Studio Gram, the precinct aims to deliver an authentic ‘barefoot luxury’ experience to visitors.

source: https://glamadelaide.com.au/100m-touris ... 3256914547

[rev]

Transit-oriented developments are (finally) back on the cards.

Housing Minister Nick Champion wants apartment towers at public transport hubs

It is believed three suburbs could be first in line in Nick Champion’s plan to push ahead with a “farsighted” strategy for high-density apartment towers that stalled 14 years ago.

High-density apartment towers would be spread to key parts of Adelaide’s suburbs under plans from the new “super” Housing Minister to ease the housing crisis by boosting supply.

Declaring he would kickstart stalled plans for high-rise developments at public transport hubs, Housing Minister Nick Champion insisted these apartments would ease pressure on suburban streets caused by infill development.

Mr Champion, who has moved to allow towers of up to 20 storeys at inner-eastern Glenside, pinpointed parklands fringe areas, particularly Thebarton and Hindmarsh, as ripe for high-density development.

In an interview with The Advertiser, Mr Champion said greenfield development and high-density “strategic infill” were “where you get your big hits in supply” and the government was “committed to enabling that”.

Suburban high-rise developments would be concentrated at public transport hubs, reviving 14-year-old plans for “transit-oriented developments” (TODs) by the Rann Labor government that delivered only the Bowden estate on the former Clipsal factory site.

It is understood Smithfield, Aldinga and Noarlunga are among the first areas to be targeted under Mr Champion’s renewed TODs agenda.

“I think it was, for its time, an amazingly farsighted plan and the Rann government did all that really future-looking work, Mr Champion said.

“What we didn’t do is implement it – so this is all about implementing that and there will be a renewed focus on transport-oriented developments.

“We know that this works, because particularly we can get large allotments of land where there is already public transport, and you can then sweat that infrastructure and make use of it.

“ … That’s a big opportunity for Adelaide to grow. We’ve got to make sure that we have the appropriate level of density on those transport-oriented developments and, obviously, the areas of strategic infill that are close to the city.”

Premier Peter Malinauskas handed Mr Champion a “new housing super portfolio” in an April 15 ministerial reshuffle, charging him with co-ordinating efforts to pull “every lever to build more homes”.

Mr Champion said high-rise apartments would attract buyers and renters including downsizers, young professionals and working-class people, depending on the area.

The 30-Year Plan for Greater Adelaide, released in 2010, recommended TODs at Noarlunga, Bedford Park, Oaklands, Glenelg, Keswick, Adelaide City, Bowden, Woodville, West Lakes, Port Adelaide, Modbury, Mawson Lakes, Salisbury and Elizabeth.

Signalling another housing policy shift, Mr Champion told The Advertiser there had been an unhealthy “over-reliance” on general suburban infill, or tightly built medium-density homes, placing pressure on carparking and infrastructure.

“The point I’d make is that every house in the air, every apartment in the air, is one less in a crowded suburban street,” he said.

“ … We want to get general infill right, we want to make sure it delivers better for the community. But if we’re having a functioning market, like a good market, we want to have the right amount of strategic infill, the right amount of general infill and the right amount of greenfield and getting that balance right is going to be a challenge.”

Asked about scope for high-rise residential development at major shopping centres, Mr Champion predicted these would “slowly evolve into a more mixed-use model because it makes sense to have people living where your shops are” – and near public transport.

There was scope for higher-density development along parts of the Adelaide parklands fringes, he said, pointing to plans for more than 1000 homes at Thebarton’s former West End Brewery site.

“We’ve got to look at this interaction between the edge of the boulevards and the parklands because we’ve got this great social asset. There is not a city around the world that’s designed like this and we’ve managed to be able to keep the integrity and the precious nature of it,” he said.

Asked if he would respond to developers’ demands to boost supply by releasing land outside Adelaide’s urban growth boundary, Mr Champion was noncommittal and highlighted the Greater Adelaide Regional Plan now open for consultation.

Mr Champion said regulatory barriers to converting CBD offices to homes had been removed but adapting them for sufficient carparking, disability access, natural light and other standards had been prohibitively challenging.

It's interesting that Aldinga has been listed as a preferred area for a TOD. Does this mean we may see rail extended to Aldinga in the near future?

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... 1713685355

They're back on the cards because they don't know how else to fix the housing crisis, because the feds wont stop with the hundreds of thousands of new arrivals every year.
But concentrating the higher density to those zones is a better outcome rather then filling up the suburbs with it.
Why/when was it even dropped?

Wasn't there always the intention to eventually extend the train line to Aldinga or was that just our wishes of people on here?

[abc]

$100m tourism destination “The Break” to offer wave lagoon surfing, accommodation and more

Located on 7.1 hectares of land at Tuit Road, Aldinga, just 40 minutes from Adelaide, ‘The Break’ promises to offer an world-class experience with a wave lagoon surfing, accommodation, wellness amenities, and beachside activities. Framed by native vegetation and designed by award-winning local architects Studio Gram, the precinct aims to deliver an authentic ‘barefoot luxury’ experience to visitors.

source: https://glamadelaide.com.au/100m-touris ... 3256914547

The-Break-Surf-Stay-Precinct-South-Australia.jpg.jpg

is this a joke? They want to construct this right next to the only beach in metro Adelaide that actually has 'a break' that can be surfed

[HiTouch]

$100m tourism destination “The Break” to offer wave lagoon surfing, accommodation and more

Located on 7.1 hectares of land at Tuit Road, Aldinga, just 40 minutes from Adelaide, ‘The Break’ promises to offer an world-class experience with a wave lagoon surfing, accommodation, wellness amenities, and beachside activities. Framed by native vegetation and designed by award-winning local architects Studio Gram, the precinct aims to deliver an authentic ‘barefoot luxury’ experience to visitors.

source: https://glamadelaide.com.au/100m-touris ... 3256914547

The-Break-Surf-Stay-Precinct-South-Australia.jpg.jpg

is this a joke? They want to construct this right next to the only beach in metro Adelaide that actually has 'a break' that can be surfed

Clearly you know nothing about surfing, what a cooked comment. This "break" can only be surfed properly 2 months of the year. Perfect place for a wavepool as the community is already established.

[ChillyPhilly]

Transit-oriented developments are (finally) back on the cards.

Housing Minister Nick Champion wants apartment towers at public transport hubs

It is believed three suburbs could be first in line in Nick Champion’s plan to push ahead with a “farsighted” strategy for high-density apartment towers that stalled 14 years ago.

High-density apartment towers would be spread to key parts of Adelaide’s suburbs under plans from the new “super” Housing Minister to ease the housing crisis by boosting supply.

Declaring he would kickstart stalled plans for high-rise developments at public transport hubs, Housing Minister Nick Champion insisted these apartments would ease pressure on suburban streets caused by infill development.

Mr Champion, who has moved to allow towers of up to 20 storeys at inner-eastern Glenside, pinpointed parklands fringe areas, particularly Thebarton and Hindmarsh, as ripe for high-density development.

In an interview with The Advertiser, Mr Champion said greenfield development and high-density “strategic infill” were “where you get your big hits in supply” and the government was “committed to enabling that”.

Suburban high-rise developments would be concentrated at public transport hubs, reviving 14-year-old plans for “transit-oriented developments” (TODs) by the Rann Labor government that delivered only the Bowden estate on the former Clipsal factory site.

It is understood Smithfield, Aldinga and Noarlunga are among the first areas to be targeted under Mr Champion’s renewed TODs agenda.

“I think it was, for its time, an amazingly farsighted plan and the Rann government did all that really future-looking work, Mr Champion said.

“What we didn’t do is implement it – so this is all about implementing that and there will be a renewed focus on transport-oriented developments.

“We know that this works, because particularly we can get large allotments of land where there is already public transport, and you can then sweat that infrastructure and make use of it.

“ … That’s a big opportunity for Adelaide to grow. We’ve got to make sure that we have the appropriate level of density on those transport-oriented developments and, obviously, the areas of strategic infill that are close to the city.”

Premier Peter Malinauskas handed Mr Champion a “new housing super portfolio” in an April 15 ministerial reshuffle, charging him with co-ordinating efforts to pull “every lever to build more homes”.

Mr Champion said high-rise apartments would attract buyers and renters including downsizers, young professionals and working-class people, depending on the area.

The 30-Year Plan for Greater Adelaide, released in 2010, recommended TODs at Noarlunga, Bedford Park, Oaklands, Glenelg, Keswick, Adelaide City, Bowden, Woodville, West Lakes, Port Adelaide, Modbury, Mawson Lakes, Salisbury and Elizabeth.

Signalling another housing policy shift, Mr Champion told The Advertiser there had been an unhealthy “over-reliance” on general suburban infill, or tightly built medium-density homes, placing pressure on carparking and infrastructure.

“The point I’d make is that every house in the air, every apartment in the air, is one less in a crowded suburban street,” he said.

“ … We want to get general infill right, we want to make sure it delivers better for the community. But if we’re having a functioning market, like a good market, we want to have the right amount of strategic infill, the right amount of general infill and the right amount of greenfield and getting that balance right is going to be a challenge.”

Asked about scope for high-rise residential development at major shopping centres, Mr Champion predicted these would “slowly evolve into a more mixed-use model because it makes sense to have people living where your shops are” – and near public transport.

There was scope for higher-density development along parts of the Adelaide parklands fringes, he said, pointing to plans for more than 1000 homes at Thebarton’s former West End Brewery site.

“We’ve got to look at this interaction between the edge of the boulevards and the parklands because we’ve got this great social asset. There is not a city around the world that’s designed like this and we’ve managed to be able to keep the integrity and the precious nature of it,” he said.

Asked if he would respond to developers’ demands to boost supply by releasing land outside Adelaide’s urban growth boundary, Mr Champion was noncommittal and highlighted the Greater Adelaide Regional Plan now open for consultation.

Mr Champion said regulatory barriers to converting CBD offices to homes had been removed but adapting them for sufficient carparking, disability access, natural light and other standards had been prohibitively challenging.

It's interesting that Aldinga has been listed as a preferred area for a TOD. Does this mean we may see rail extended to Aldinga in the near future?

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... 1713685355

They're back on the cards because they don't know how else to fix the housing crisis, because the feds wont stop with the hundreds of thousands of new arrivals every year.
But concentrating the higher density to those zones is a better outcome rather then filling up the suburbs with it.
Why/when was it even dropped?

Wasn't there always the intention to eventually extend the train line to Aldinga or was that just our wishes of people on here?

Labor intervened in 2022 to ensure land could be reserved for a corridor. The corridor is discernable on imagery and maps.

[Norman]

The land has been reserved for a good 10 years or so, but I'm not sure if it was done in stages or in one go. There was a proposal during the Marshall government to shorten the reserved land back to Port Road/Quinlivan Road instead of Aldinga Beach Road, but this was overturned by the Mali government.

[Llessur2002]

Another pub (albeit not a great one) bites the dust to be turned into offices and "a cafe or restaurant or something like that".

Still, hopefully the historic facade will be restored - the current building isn't particularly inspiring.

Land of Promise acquired by developers looking to return the building back to its former glory


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Developers have unveiled plans to transform what was one of Adelaide’s last suburban topless venues, promising to return the building to its former glory.

Eastern Building Group, led by directors Danny Scinto and George Skrembos, have emerged as the buyers of the Land of Promise site on Port Rd in Hindmarsh following the venue’s closure in 2022.

The building and development company plans to retain the historic facade as part of a $7m project involving demolition of the rear of the venue to make way for a new building - likely to be used as offices.

The historic pub first opened as the “Land of Promise Inn” in 1840 and was taken over by Leanne Cox and her husband Leighton in 1991.

They established it as an adult venue, and operated it for 31 years before closing the doors in June 2022.

Eastern Building Group will complete its $3.8m acquisition of the site next week, and is currently working with architects on designs for the development.

Mr Skrembos said a development application was likely to be lodged with council within the next couple of months.

“It’s a lovely building, a very historic building, and we are working on plans at the moment,” he said.

“We are retaining all of the significant parts of the building, the heritage part of the building.

“We’ve got old photographs of what the building used to look like, and we’re going to take it back to what it looked like as well - we see the potential of reinstating it back to its former glory and building something at the back of it.”

While the building does not have a heritage listing, elements of it are deemed by planning rules as having “representative” features, meaning they cannot be demolished.


The Land of Promise pictured in 1929. Picture: Supplied by Eastern Building Group

Mr Skrembos said a new building behind the facade would be built within the three-storey height limit for the area.

“The back of it will be a development, most likely an office building with a bit of car park at the back, because there’s a big issue in the area with car parking,” he said.

“The front of it may be a cafe or restaurant or something like that.”

The Land of Promise was one of the Adelaide’s last remaining suburban topless venues, closing its doors in 2022 after publicans at the Cross Keys Hotel and Cavan Hotel ditched their topless waitressing for more family-friendly environments.

At the time of the Land of Promise’s closure, Mr Cox said it had struggled to lure new patrons, blaming “boutique gin bars” for the lack of young people coming through the doors.

From: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business ... 698efc35dd

[abc]

Another pub (albeit not a great one) bites the dust to be turned into offices and "a cafe or restaurant or something like that".

Still, hopefully the historic facade will be restored - the current building isn't particularly inspiring.

From: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business ... 698efc35dd

why wasn't it great?

[Llessur2002]

why wasn't it great?

It was a tired and run-down topless bar which closed due to low patronage.

[Llessur2002]

Here's the current exterior for anyone who's not familiar with it.

[abc]

Here's the current exterior for anyone who's not familiar with it.

doesn't look rundown to me

I guess the topless part was what offended you

[Llessur2002]

doesn't look rundown to me

I guess the topless part was what offended you

Why do you assume I'm offended by it?

I've been in there a handful of times, not to the topless section as it's not my cup of tea - but I have absolutely no problem with it existing. The front bar area was OK at best, but in general it felt tired and run down. I know that's a subjective opinion but I've been to a lot of pubs to compare it against.

The previous owners stated that it was difficult to attract new patrons as young people were more interested in going to "boutique gin bars" or something along those lines.

I'm not trying to needlessly slam the place but I don't think it's out of order to suggest it was one of the many pubs that fell into the middle ground of not being quaint and heritage (butchered shell of the building aside) enough to stand the test of time/remain unchanged, and not moving with the times to offer a more contemporary experience (see the nearby and excellently-renovated Brickmakers/Gaslight as an example). It was tired and had its day.