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[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:32 pm
by Will
skyliner wrote:Anyone know the height and floor total of 115 Grenfell St? (Looks bigger than this project but with fewer floors).

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115 Grenfell Street or Wyatt House is 18 levels and 72m in height. The building was built between 1988-1990.

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:20 pm
by Omicron
Not bad, not bad. Nice to see decent height along the northern side of Grenfell, and the inclusion of extra storefronts rather than the dire, desolate bosh that is there now.

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Plaza Arcade | 92m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:19 am
by monotonehell
AtD wrote:...And to be honest, given the size of the site, I'm a little surprised there isn't more bulk along the Rundle Street side. As this is to the south, there shouldn't be any shadow issues on the mall so it could get away with some nice height. The line-of-sight on the elevations show you probably won't even notice the tower from the Mall...
Perhaps they are offsetting the height back from the Mall so people down there don't feel like they're in a canyon?

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Plaza Arcade | 92m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:09 am
by AtD
monotonehell wrote:Perhaps they are offsetting the height back from the Mall so people down there don't feel like they're in a canyon?
Without the shadow problem the canyon effect won't be as noticeable as if the same building was on the north side, or even if a shorter building was on the north.

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:04 pm
by skyliner
Will wrote:
skyliner wrote:Anyone know the height and floor total of 115 Grenfell St? (Looks bigger than this project but with fewer floors).

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115 Grenfell Street or Wyatt House is 18 levels and 72m in height. The building was built between 1988-1990.
Thanks mate - that helps with the diagrammatical representation of heights along Grenfell. There is another building almost opposite with an approximately 45 degree sloping roof - must be a similar height - which makes a significant impact on the skyline from Windy Point.

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[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:42 pm
by Will
skyliner wrote:
Will wrote:
skyliner wrote:Anyone know the height and floor total of 115 Grenfell St? (Looks bigger than this project but with fewer floors).

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITYSKYLINE
115 Grenfell Street or Wyatt House is 18 levels and 72m in height. The building was built between 1988-1990.
Thanks mate - that helps with the diagrammatical representation of heights along Grenfell. There is another building almost opposite with an approximately 45 degree sloping roof - must be a similar height - which makes a significant impact on the skyline from Windy Point.

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The building with the sloping roof you mention is the SA Water Building or Australis House. That one is taller than 115 Grenfell Street. The SA Water Building is 96m and 22 levels. It was built between 1989-1991 at a cost of $105 million!

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:19 am
by kernelpanic
Would love to see some more detailed renderings. I'm liking what I see, but it does look a little uninspired...

Is that too harsh? :oops:

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:48 am
by pushbutton
It's only what me and several others have said so no, I don't think it's too harsh.

I just think it needs a little bit more style and something special and unique, without being too over the top.

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:02 pm
by skyliner
Thanks again Will for the info you gave about the buildings of concern. Pretty useless up here in Bris. working some of these things out unfortunately.

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[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:33 pm
by pushbutton
Off topic I know, but after what I said earlier in this thread about the Myer Centre and its ugly food court, I got a big surprise today. The Myer Centre food court is in the process of being completely refurbished and will be very modern when complete.

I still doubt it will feel as spacious as I would like it too though, as it will probably still have all those kiosks and very little natural light.

Will be 10 times better than it was though.

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:06 pm
by monotonehell
pushbutton wrote:Off topic I know, but after what I said earlier in this thread about the Myer Centre and its ugly food court, I got a big surprise today. The Myer Centre food court is in the process of being completely refurbished and will be very modern when complete.

I still doubt it will feel as spacious as I would like it too though, as it will probably still have all those kiosks and very little natural light.

Will be 10 times better than it was though.
Ja - new tiles, tables, chairs and décor. Will be improved but still a bit shite.

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:42 pm
by crawf
About time!

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:21 pm
by nimeton
Article in the city messenger stating that the Adelaide City Council has removed themselves from the development process for this building. Apparently, they own property located in the development site so have pulled out on legal advice and the State Government will be assessing instead.

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:28 pm
by joshzxzx
Good news

[COM] Re: #PRO: Rundle Place | 93m | 19lvls | Office & Retail

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:42 pm
by Ben
From the Messenger:
City’s tower conflict
newsLocal News15 Oct 08 @ 04:00pm by Adam Todd
THE City Council has ruled itself out of assessing the $150 million Harris Scarfe site development because of a conflict of interest.

The 19-storey retail and office tower planned for the Rundle Mall site will now be assessed by the State Government’s Development Assessment Commission (DAC).

The conflict of interest centres on the City Council’s ownership of two portions of land on the site a 2000 sqm basement loading dock and 1685 sqm of the ground floor.

Harris Scarfe already pays the council rent for its portion of the ground floor.

Lord Mayor Michael Harbison said the council had sought legal advice and had been warned the conflict of interest was too great.

“We’ve got property ownership as part of it and it’s not just putting up a toilet, it’s a significant development,” he said.

Mr Harbison said the council stood to gain “substantial” financial benefit from the development and it would be inappropriate for Town Hall to be involved in the assessment process.

Mr Harbison did not have exact details about the council’s prospective financial gain, saying: “That will be up to financial negotiations between council and the developer.”

The development was set to be City Council’s last chance to assess a development of more than $10 million.

Applicant Alteman (SA) lodged its plans on July 16, just one day before the State Government seized control of planning powers for major developments.

The project would require the demolition of the Harris Scarfe department store, which also fronts Grenfell St. The application is expected to go before the DAP for comment next month before being assessed by the DAC.