[U/C] 88 O'Connell Street | 63m | 13, 13 and 15 Levels | Mixed Use

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[U/C] Re: Proposal# 88 O'Connell St - Makris dev. 6 lvl

#166 Post by Pistol » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:28 am

Councillor Anne Moran says the latest proposal for a four-storey development would be more acceptable.

"The limit now is quite a strict three storeys, but you can go above that as long as it's not too far above.
Does this make any sense to anyone????

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#167 Post by JamesXander » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:58 am

Does anyone actually like the Adelaide Council. They would be up there with umpires as the most hated people in Australia

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#168 Post by Will » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:18 pm

If the proposal has now been reduced to four storeys and the hotel, cinemas and supermarket aspects removed, then it has become just another plain apartment building. As such it is not worthy of Major project status.

Furthermore, I withdraw my support for the project. This was a prime piece of real-estate which had the potential of becoming something iconic for Adelaide. Now, it will become just another, 'Tuscan' apartment complex.

I hope the project fails, and the site remains a vacant eye-sore for a further 20 years, as a monument to our backwards mentallity.

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#169 Post by Norman » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:37 pm

MaximumForce wrote:Today I was walking home from the Archer hotel and on my way I bumped into a camera man and a hot chick (who was the interviewer). They were asking ppl walking down Archer st how they felt about the Le Cornu development now that it has been cut down to 4 levels and that it won't have a cinema. I was like what! it went from 9... to 6... and now 4 levels?!? I have a feeling though that she got it wrong (otherwise we would know about it right?).

So they got the camera rolling and the hot chick asked me a question (I'd had a few beverages at the Archer so was not really totally mentally alert) Anyway I said a few things in support of the developers, then I completely lost it right at then end and said something that didn't really make sense at all and I kept thinking oh no the whole of South Australia is going to think I am a loony... But generally I felt that what I said made sense (in the beginning anyway) I was stressing out later wanting to go back with notes to give a prepared statement - but what do they expect when they are asking random ppl and taking them by surprise - all they are really after is a a 2 second sound bite they can use.
Not sure who they were, I didn't see a number on the camera so maybe it was not for t.v.? But I'm thinking that babe had that type of look about her that she had to be in television.

I hope someone can quell these rumors about the height being only 4 lvls and the cinema being dropped...
I think you might have been on ABC news... I'll upload the video later.

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#170 Post by Norman » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:56 pm

Here we go... ABC News report from last night.


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#171 Post by AtD » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:12 pm

It's nice to see at least one level headed supporter of the project presented in the report.

I don't understand the argument that it will increase traffic, it's a major thoroughfare!

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#172 Post by Shuz » Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:17 pm

I sense another Victoria Park style saga coming up.

Snore.

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#173 Post by Will » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:22 pm

Shuz wrote:I sense another Victoria Park style saga coming up.

Snore.
It's another victory to the NIMBY brigade.

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#174 Post by cruel_world00 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:10 pm

Some things are just too frustrating for words. This is one of them.

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#175 Post by skyliner » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:49 pm

AtD wrote:It's nice to see at least one level headed supporter of the project presented in the report.

I don't understand the argument that it will increase traffic, it's a major thoroughfare!
ditto,
Shuz wrote:I sense another Victoria Park style saga coming up.

Snore.
Ditto,
AtD wrote:It's nice to see at least one level headed supporter of the project presented in the report.

I don't understand the argument that it will increase traffic, it's a major thoroughfare!
And ditto!

The place is a major thoroughfare. 7 levels are nothing in the scheme of things.At least the Piccadilly and the pubs can be happy - but how big a minority are they. How big a minority are the people around O'Connell St - and how far forward is their vision seeing. As for the ACC - look at what it started with!
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[U/C] Re: Proposal# 88 O'Connell St - Makris dev. 6 lvl

#176 Post by how_good_is_he » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:38 pm

Wouldn't it be nice if Makris agreed to a 4 storey height to get the approval and keep the ACC/nimby's happy .....but forgot to mention the floor to ceiling sizes per storey are now double, giving the building the same height.

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#177 Post by JamesXander » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:43 pm

I completely agree. Major developement status should be dropped. Its now just a little apartment building. The last design looked exellent.


Now its just an average building. We will never again have this much land in an ideal location ever again.

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#178 Post by crawf » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:24 pm

Will wrote:four storeys and the hotel, cinemas and supermarket aspects removed
Wasn't all that removed for the 6 level version?, and it only included apartments and high end retailers.

I reckon the project is still basically the same, though the street frontage building might be 4 levels and the other building will be 6 levels. Or has Anne Moran got her facts wrong and the whole thing is still 6 levels, because when you think about it you wouldn't make much money on just 4 level apartments AND how would Anne Moran even know about the latest plans when the ACC has no say in this project, only the State Government.

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#179 Post by Will » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:12 pm

crawf wrote:
Will wrote:four storeys and the hotel, cinemas and supermarket aspects removed
Wasn't all that removed for the 6 level version?, and it only included apartments and high end retailers.

I reckon the project is still basically the same, though the street frontage building might be 4 levels and the other building will be 6 levels. Or has Anne Moran got her facts wrong and the whole thing is still 6 levels, because when you think about it you wouldn't make much money on just 4 level apartments AND how would Anne Moran even know about the latest plans when the ACC has no say in this project, only the State Government.
The 6 storey version still had the supermarket and cinema. I was highlighting how progressively this development has been dumbed down from what would have been a world class attraction fro Adelaide, complete with a 6 star hotel, to what we now have, which is essentially just another apartment box.

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[U/C] Re: Proposal# 88 O'Connell St - Makris dev. 6 lvl

#180 Post by Omicron » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:52 am

Supposedly, the emigration of young people to other states is a serious problem for South Australia, yet the relevant bodies do nothing but succumb to the views of the establishment - how demonstrably limp-wristed. The lack of intelligence of the opposition to this project thus far is evident by their persistent focus upon the height of the development, rather than any relevant points regarding streetscape, design, business content or tourist appeal, and it annoys me that such factors are so infrequently considered by residents of North Adelaide who make vocal negative opinions regarding any new development.

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