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[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:27 am
by Norman
I'm pretty sure he meant Salisbury Highway... Pretty much the same thing really...
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:26 am
by neoballmon
spiller wrote:I use this once per week in both directions on a commute between business locations. Yesterday whilst heading north, it appears this has created a large bottle neck where traffic merges from the Port River expressway onto Port Wakefield Road in a northerly direction. It is a single lane merge. I'm not sure if this has always been a bit of a bottle neck but my thoughts are that the superway is now delivering traffic to Pt.WR at a much faster rate than the old system, and this basic merger cannot keep up. bring on the northern connector?
Hopefully this will accelerate the approval and construction of the northern connector! Although I'm sure DPTI would go for a quick fix and just add an extra Lane on the northern side of Salisbury Highway for the 300 or so metres before the turnoff and gave a second Lane feeding into PWR.
How is traffic coming the other way, after turning off from PWR and having to merge to one Lane so soon after the lights? Has this increased a lot as well, because this was always a pretty busy section to begin with.
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:18 pm
by crawf
The Torrens River to Torrens Road bottleneck needs to be fixed first.
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:35 pm
by spiller
neoballmon wrote:spiller wrote:I use this once per week in both directions on a commute between business locations. Yesterday whilst heading north, it appears this has created a large bottle neck where traffic merges from the Port River expressway onto Port Wakefield Road in a northerly direction. It is a single lane merge. I'm not sure if this has always been a bit of a bottle neck but my thoughts are that the superway is now delivering traffic to Pt.WR at a much faster rate than the old system, and this basic merger cannot keep up. bring on the northern connector?
Hopefully this will accelerate the approval and construction of the northern connector! Although I'm sure DPTI would go for a quick fix and just add an extra Lane on the northern side of Salisbury Highway for the 300 or so metres before the turnoff and gave a second Lane feeding into PWR.
How is traffic coming the other way, after turning off from PWR and having to merge to one Lane so soon after the lights? Has this increased a lot as well, because this was always a pretty busy section to begin with.
Its not too bad coming back the other way because there is a traffic light there and there are two merging lanes onto the Sailsbury Highway (sorry this is what I meant in my earlier post, not Port River Expwy (aren,t they basically the same road anyway?).
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:38 pm
by metro
crawf wrote:The Torrens River to Torrens Road bottleneck needs to be fixed first.
Nothing will happen unless the Infrastructure Prime Minister gives our supposedly 'illegitimate government' some funds to do it. Abbott will give SA nothing, but promise everything in the lead up to the 2016 election.
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:47 pm
by Waewick
metro wrote:crawf wrote:The Torrens River to Torrens Road bottleneck needs to be fixed first.
Nothing will happen unless the Infrastructure Prime Minister gives our supposedly 'illegitimate government' some funds to do it. Abbott will give SA nothing, but promise everything in the lead up to the 2016 election.
I think we'll get something....it will just be tied into tolls....
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:31 pm
by monotonehell
Waewick wrote:metro wrote:crawf wrote:The Torrens River to Torrens Road bottleneck needs to be fixed first.
Nothing will happen unless the Infrastructure Prime Minister gives our supposedly 'illegitimate government' some funds to do it. Abbott will give SA nothing, but promise everything in the lead up to the 2016 election.
I think we'll get something....it will just be tied into tolls....
We will also have to sell SA Water.
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:42 pm
by Waewick
monotonehell wrote:metro wrote:crawf wrote:The Torrens River to Torrens Road bottleneck needs to be fixed first.
Nothing will happen unless the Infrastructure Prime Minister gives our supposedly 'illegitimate government' some funds to do it. Abbott will give SA nothing, but promise everything in the lead up to the 2016 election.
We will also have to sell SA Water.
I really can't see them enforcing that. It doesn't make sense even from a national liberal POV.
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:45 pm
by warpspeed
spiller wrote:neoballmon wrote:spiller wrote:I use this once per week in both directions on a commute between business locations. Yesterday whilst heading north, it appears this has created a large bottle neck where traffic merges from the Port River expressway onto Port Wakefield Road in a northerly direction. It is a single lane merge. I'm not sure if this has always been a bit of a bottle neck but my thoughts are that the superway is now delivering traffic to Pt.WR at a much faster rate than the old system, and this basic merger cannot keep up. bring on the northern connector?
Hopefully this will accelerate the approval and construction of the northern connector! Although I'm sure DPTI would go for a quick fix and just add an extra Lane on the northern side of Salisbury Highway for the 300 or so metres before the turnoff and gave a second Lane feeding into PWR.
How is traffic coming the other way, after turning off from PWR and having to merge to one Lane so soon after the lights? Has this increased a lot as well, because this was always a pretty busy section to begin with.
Its not too bad coming back the other way because there is a traffic light there and there are two merging lanes onto the Sailsbury Highway (sorry this is what I meant in my earlier post, not Port River Expwy (aren,t they basically the same road anyway?).
Yes they are, he was just being unnecessarily anal-retentive, we all knew what you meant.
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:25 pm
by alexczarn
crawf wrote:The Torrens River to Torrens Road bottleneck needs to be fixed first.
What I don't get is, why didn't they extend the superway over the Regency Road intersection? I know it was a big money thing; but, *IF* and *WHEN* they do the Torrens to Torrens, the Regency Road intersection is going to just become the new bottleneck. Especially if they want a non-stop South Road.
(Just my 2 cents worth. I drive that route every day Tuesday-Friday to get to university.)
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:58 pm
by spiller
^^^ money. The elevated section terminates over 1km before the regency road intersection. We're talking 30% extra on top of a project that almost blew out to a billion $.
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:55 pm
by neoballmon
alexczarn wrote:What I don't get is, why didn't they extend the superway over the Regency Road intersection? I know it was a big money thing; but, *IF* and *WHEN* they do the Torrens to Torrens, the Regency Road intersection is going to just become the new bottleneck. Especially if they want a non-stop South Road.
It has been mentioned, either earlier in this thread or the other North-South Corridor one, that this intersection was left out of this and the Torrens-Torrens project, (as well as Torrens Road) because in the final plan, they will not be interchanges, and they will simply tunnel under these roads without access points. But they aren't going to close off access to these roads until they have a better local road section of South Road, separated from the 'North South Motorway'
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:34 pm
by drsmith
While now a generation ago and over a river, the construction of the Brisbane Gateway Bridge in the 80's had some obvious similarities with that of the Superway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz4j7Rifbg4
Parts 2 and 3 are also available.
There were no bright coloured safety vests in those days.
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:52 pm
by Aidan
neoballmon wrote:alexczarn wrote:What I don't get is, why didn't they extend the superway over the Regency Road intersection? I know it was a big money thing; but, *IF* and *WHEN* they do the Torrens to Torrens, the Regency Road intersection is going to just become the new bottleneck. Especially if they want a non-stop South Road.
It has been mentioned, either earlier in this thread or the other North-South Corridor one, that this intersection was left out of this and the Torrens-Torrens project, (as well as Torrens Road) because in the final plan, they will not be interchanges, and they will simply tunnel under these roads without access points. But they aren't going to close off access to these roads until they have a better local road section of South Road, separated from the 'North South Motorway'
That's the first I've heard of leaving out the Regency Road intersection for that reason, and I don't believe it. Regency Road is vital for accessing the rail terminal. They wouldn't quite be stupid enough to leave an intersection with it out of the plans like they intend to with Torrens Road.
[COM] Re: COM: South Road Superway | $842m | 3km
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:13 am
by rhino
Yes, I'm with Aidan on this one. I did hear that there would not be an interchange at Torrens Road, however. That is folly too, IMO.