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Re: News & Discussion: Other Metropolitan Developments
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:58 pm
by rhino
rev wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:29 pm
You can't push people away from one mode of transport, without providing an alternative that provides convenience.
^^This^^
Re: News & Discussion: Other Metropolitan Developments
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:12 pm
by Nathan
rev wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:29 pm
ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:07 pm
rev wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:58 pm
lol wow
I didn't hold back.
The problem imho isn't cars, the problem is a lack of public transport options for the majority.
We're building huge housing estates in the north, and most are nowhere near a train line.
You can't push people away from one mode of transport, without providing an alternative that provides convenience.
It's not just public transport, that's only one part of the puzzle. Having everyday shops and services within walking distance is also key to reducing car dependence, otherwise you get people catching the train home to then immediately hop in their car to go to the supermarket or pharmacy — they still need that car. Same goes for local third places, and activities and places to meet for kids/teenagers. These low density housing estates they keep planning on the city fringe are just residential enclaves that are just requiring every single person in the household over the age of 16 to have their own individual car, even if there's a token train station with a bus stop shelter tucked away at the furthest corner of the development.
Re: News & Discussion: Other Metropolitan Developments
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:45 am
by Nort
Nathan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:12 pm
rev wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:29 pm
ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:07 pm
I didn't hold back.
The problem imho isn't cars, the problem is a lack of public transport options for the majority.
We're building huge housing estates in the north, and most are nowhere near a train line.
You can't push people away from one mode of transport, without providing an alternative that provides convenience.
It's not just public transport, that's only one part of the puzzle. Having everyday shops and services within walking distance is also key to reducing car dependence, otherwise you get people catching the train home to then immediately hop in their car to go to the supermarket or pharmacy — they still need that car. Same goes for local third places, and activities and places to meet for kids/teenagers. These low density housing estates they keep planning on the city fringe are just residential enclaves that are just requiring every single person in the household over the age of 16 to have their own individual car, even if there's a token train station with a bus stop shelter tucked away at the furthest corner of the development.
Exactly. Train line should go into the center of the town, right where the shops and other services are. Dense housing around that, and then more spread out stuff.