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[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:31 pm
by AtD
Thanks Will. I've added that data to the database.
UrbanSG, do you mind if I use one of your photos of the bus terminal?
Cheers.
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:38 pm
by Ben
Will, If I understand correctly this land is/was owned by ACC and they have allowed Urban Construct to develop it as long as they comply with specific guidelines and in exchange for this the developers are allowed to exceed height limits in the area and bend a few other rules in regards to size of apartments ect.
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:54 pm
by UrbanSG
AtD I have no problem with you using any of my photos. Thanks for asking though.
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:24 pm
by AtD
Thanks.
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:38 pm
by Will
Ben wrote:Will, If I understand correctly this land is/was owned by ACC and they have allowed Urban Construct to develop it as long as they comply with specific guidelines and in exchange for this the developers are allowed to exceed height limits in the area and bend a few other rules in regards to size of apartments ect.
Yes, that is pretty much how it is.
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:10 pm
by Howie
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:18 pm
by Edgar
I am getting confused by this project, just a re-cap of what is happening and if I am wrong, can someone please correct me so that I'm on track of this development?
First, is the new Bus Station, the carpark, and the apartment above the new Bus Station, part of 'The Precinct' project itself?
Secondly, if the above is correct, why does the
website claims the 'Stage 1' as 'The Gallery' which is the 7 level apartments along Morphett St, and the 6-level apartments at Franklin St?
AtD wrote:
191-199 Morphett Street, found by Ben
here - 7 storey residential apartment building containing 109 apartments, 22m
142-184 Franklin Street, found by Will
back in August 2006 - 6 storey apartment building containing 109 apartments.
Are they trying to mean the two 7, and 6-levels apartment of 'The Gallery' as the 'Stage 1' of the development at Balfour's Site?
Or the entire development at the Balfour's site is named 'The Precinct' , soon to be completed with the Stage 2 'Altitude', the 19-levels 62m towers, and a second one, west of the site?
Thirdly, Is the remaining three, 19-levels 62meters towers, to be built around here?
If yes, then am I right that, at this stage, there has not been any renders of the plan being released yet?
Fourthly, is one of the three towers at the bus station, would be replacing the location the existing
100 Grote st - Hotel - 15 floors - 56m proposal? Here...
crawf wrote:
Finally, which other location is being covered under this project? or should I called it 'The Precinct'? Besides the current location on the bus station and Balford's site?
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:34 pm
by AtD
The Bus station building, whilst part of the project, isn't being marketed as part of "The Precinct" because there's no apartments for sale in the building. They're all housing trust apartments, so the developer probably doesn't want to associate it with their luxury apartments.
The Gallery is stage one of the luxury apartment part of the project.
The other three buildings are going to be on the existing bus terminal, the first photo you posted, and as far as I know they will also be marketd as "The Precinct".
The 100 Grote Street site is currently occupied by the church, and is separate all together from this project, different developer, different owners.
There used to be some older renders of the three towers at the start of this thread. I might have a copy of them at home.
Hope this clears things up.
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:00 pm
by Edgar
Thanks AtD for the clarification, however, I got myself confused half way through the thread when I read this:
Dave_The_Planner wrote:The church is staying. Only the hall at the rear is being demolished.
The old bus station will be demolished and the area between the new bus station, behind the church and to the old bus station will be the development site for the towers.
Not sure about the renders, they may be out-of-date.
Dave_The_Planner wrote:Oh and yes, there are still three towers. The hall is being demolished for ONE of these.
which I assume, would be this hall here? where the Subaru is parked..
crawf wrote:
and this to me, looks like where the initial proposal for
100 Grote St Hotel is located.
So are you saying that, the other 3 towers, will be located at the existing old Central Bus Station location, all the way to the intersection?
That is the old render, so which tower is 'Dave The Planner' talking about?
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:07 pm
by Ho Really
The hall at the back of the church is not part of the Bus Station development. Looking at the old renders it shows this. The hall and Church are 100 Grote Street. As far as we know that hotel (at the rear of church) will not be built.
Cheers
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:09 pm
by AtD
AFAIK, the now dead 100 Grote Hotel was to go where the chruch hall is. The three apartment buildings are to go were the bus station is. The empy paved space in your shots apparently must stay that way under the plan. But he may know something we don't.
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:13 pm
by Edgar
Dave_The_Planner wrote:The church is staying. Only the hall at the rear is being demolished. ...Oh and yes, there are still three towers. The hall is being demolished for ONE of these.
That was the statement that still confuses me.
So the above statement is not true?
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:16 pm
by AG
Edgar wrote:Dave_The_Planner wrote:The church is staying. Only the hall at the rear is being demolished. ...Oh and yes, there are still three towers. The hall is being demolished for ONE of these.
That was the statement that still confuses me.
So the above statement is not true?
No, the hall was to be demolished to make way for 100 Grote Street, but the project looks to have been canned so it will likely remain. The three towers of the bus station side of The Precinct are located on the other side of the laneway from the new bus station and the hall.
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:25 am
by AtD
Howie wrote:
I've been beefing up the numbers of the project list by adding the envisioned extra towers of this project. What's the small blue building behind Altitude? Any details? Should I add it with the others?
Cheers.
[CAN] Re: #UC: The Precinct - 5 19 lvl - 62m towers
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:40 pm
by Dave_The_Planner
Sorry for that confusion there. Yes, the church site is a DIFFERENT project which is unlikely to proceed for the time being.