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Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:39 pm
by AtD
Wayno wrote:So my desire for high density living has already been achieved in one of the locations! sick joke i know...
High density? Yes! Living? Uhh...

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:50 pm
by Ho Really
Wayno wrote:...The northen most one also has a rail line nearby...
Unfortunately there's no railway line there anymore. The Northfield line was ripped out some time ago. Would be good to see light rail there one day as a cross town service to Tea Tree Plaza... :idea:

Cheers

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:48 am
by rhino
Ho Really wrote:
Wayno wrote:...The northen most one also has a rail line nearby...
Unfortunately there's no railway line there anymore. The Northfield line was ripped out some time ago. Would be good to see light rail there one day as a cross town service to Tea Tree Plaza... :idea:

Cheers
They should extend it upstream along the valley of Dry Creek to service those suburbs (Walkley Heights, Valley View, Modbury, Ridgehaven, Redwood Park, Wynn Vale) - run all stops to Dry Creek and then express to Adelaide. Would be a heck of a lot faster than the bus service in peak. It would also be used in both directions from Dry Creek to Wynn Vale as fast access to TTP at Modbury.

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:28 pm
by Will409
Wayno wrote:There's a few large-ish parcels of what appears to be undeveloped land within 10km of Adelaide CBD. The northern most one also has a rail line nearby. Who owns the land, and how best could it be used? opportunity for density housing?
parcel.JPG
I think you mean had a railway line. The black line is the former alignment of Dry Creek to Northfield line which was closed in 1987. However, the entire alignment is still intact. As for the land south of the alignment, that is used by the velodrome.

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:30 pm
by Cruise
Will409 wrote:
I think you mean had a railway line. The black line is the former alignment of Dry Creek to Northfield line which was closed in 1987.
thankyou bannon :roll:

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:55 pm
by monotonehell
Cruise wrote:
Will409 wrote:
I think you mean had a railway line. The black line is the former alignment of Dry Creek to Northfield line which was closed in 1987.
thankyou bannon :roll:
What do you mean by that? It was a 2Km spur that serviced some industry off of Dry Creek. It didn't actually go anywhere.

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:19 am
by Ho Really
monotonehell wrote:
Cruise wrote:
Will409 wrote:
I think you mean had a railway line. The black line is the former alignment of Dry Creek to Northfield line which was closed in 1987.
thankyou bannon :roll:
What do you mean by that? It was a 2Km spur that serviced some industry off of Dry Creek. It didn't actually go anywhere.
Well it sort of did, up to Bridge Road, but they should have been more visionary and extended the line (as mentioned by rhino and myself) to Tea Tree Plaza or beyond. I think one of the reasons such an idea was shelved was because the government of the day (I think under Tonkin) decided for the O-bahn instead.

Cheers

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:11 am
by monotonehell
Ho Really wrote:
monotonehell wrote:What do you mean by that? It was a 2Km spur that serviced some industry off of Dry Creek. It didn't actually go anywhere.
Well it sort of did, up to Bridge Road, but they should have been more visionary and extended the line (as mentioned by rhino and myself) to Tea Tree Plaza or beyond. I think one of the reasons such an idea was shelved was because the government of the day (I think under Tonkin) decided for the O-bahn instead.
That'd be the long way around, it would make the distance traveled to TTP twice as long and not service all the NE suburbs. The OBahn is obviously a much better route, and an Obahn is the better choice for a suburban sprawl. (Trains do not offer a door to door service). Trains are good for distance travel, not so good for the inner suburbs.

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:06 pm
by Ho Really
monotonehell wrote:That'd be the long way around, it would make the distance traveled to TTP twice as long and not service all the NE suburbs. The OBahn is obviously a much better route, and an Obahn is the better choice for a suburban sprawl. (Trains do not offer a door to door service). Trains are good for distance travel, not so good for the inner suburbs.
Of course it (a rail line either heavy or light) would have been the long way around and not direct as today's O-bahn service to and from the city, but I was looking at a cross town service between Tea Tree Plaza, Port Adelaide, Semaphore and Outer Harbor. You could also throw in a service to Woodville, Grange and West Lakes (if that was ever included) from Port Adelaide. A line to Tea Tree Plaza down to Northfield opens up many options for a cross town service. The thinking now should be for urban consolidation and the building of highhrises (higher density dwellings) along these corridors (recently mentioned in The Advertser) and advocated by most of us here on S-A. Rail seems to spur this along, though I do agree the O-bahn is a better choice for urban sprawl.

Cheers

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:25 pm
by No Clever Alias
Ho Really wrote: There's always the possibility of foreign naval ships...
Actually, there is no possibility anymore due to security reasons... naval ships no longer come into the inner harbour due to being too exposed and the length of time to get out to open sea. Shame, but reflective of the paranoid times we live in.

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:33 pm
by rogue
Wayno wrote:there's a few large-ish parcels of what appears to be undeveloped land within 10km of Adelaide CBD. The northen most one also has a rail line nearby. Who owns the land, and how best could it be used? opportunity for density housing?
parcel.JPG
Top left - The Pines. Earmarked for a so called Super School.
Top right - Yatala labour Prison and Northfield Womens Prison. Soon to be open to development when the new prisons get built at Murray Bridge (on a side note: i hope they dont demolish that nice old stone buildings of Yatala)
Bottom left - Cemetary
Bottom right - Northfield stage 2 (housing development)

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:59 pm
by Wayno
rogue wrote:
Wayno wrote:there's a few large-ish parcels of what appears to be undeveloped land within 10km of Adelaide CBD. The northen most one also has a rail line nearby. Who owns the land, and how best could it be used? opportunity for density housing?
parcel.JPG
Top left - The Pines. Earmarked for a so called Super School.
Top right - Yatala labour Prison and Northfield Womens Prison. Soon to be open to development when the new prisons get built at Murray Bridge (on a side note: i hope they dont demolish that nice old stone buildings of Yatala)
Bottom left - Cemetary
Bottom right - Northfield stage 2 (housing development)
thanks rogue.

Re: Parcels of undeveloped land?!

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:42 pm
by Ho Really
No Clever Alias wrote:
Ho Really wrote: There's always the possibility of foreign naval ships...
Actually, there is no possibility anymore due to security reasons... naval ships no longer come into the inner harbour due to being too exposed and the length of time to get out to open sea. Shame, but reflective of the paranoid times we live in.
Paranoia of course. I was thinking about non-aligned countries. Even if that's pretty remote we should never discount it completely.

Cheers

Marble Hill Mansion to be restored

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:58 pm
by Mants
Marble Hill to rise from bushfire ruin

GREG KELTON, STATE EDITOR

May 17, 2008 12:30am

THE historic Marble Hill mansion will be restored under a deal between the Government and private developers.
The multimillion-dollar restorations will incorporate a museum which will feature the history of the property and its relevance to the state.

Environment Minister Gail Gago said a heads of agreement for the 22ha site in the Hills had been signed with Adelaide businessman Edwin Michell and his wife, Dr Patricia Bishop.

She said they were landowners in the district and had "considerable passion" for the restoration of heritage properties.

Ms Gago said while the agreement could lead to the sale of the property in the future, a key condition was that future public access to the site for at least seven days a year was assured.

She said no subdivision would be allowed once the property sale went through.

The site's heritage values would have to be protected.

"This is a good outcome that will see the ruins of Marble Hill substantially restored to its former beauty," Ms Gago said.

She met the Friends of Marble Hill last night to inform them of the Government's decision.

The state heritage-listed former summer residence of the governor was built in 1879 but was gutted in the Black Sunday bushfires on January 2, 1955.

The 26-room Gothic revival mansion was never rebuilt and has been run by the Friends of Marble Hill volunteers since 1994.

Tenders were called last year to develop and manage the site, believed to be worth about $4 million. "South Australians are very fortunate that Patricia and Edwin Michell are prepared to commit their time and resources to Marble Hill," Ms Gago said.

She said the proponents would explore opportunities for the continuing involvement of the Friends of Marble Hill.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 82,00.html

excellent! the ruins are great, if anyone has had a chance to head up there.
it will be fantastic to see such a significant building in our state's history rise from the ashes (no pun intended :lol: ) and become utilized once again

Re: Marble Hill Mansion to be restored

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:32 am
by SRW
I've long desired for it to be rebuilt, so this is excellent news to me! We need to have everyone of these sort of grand and historic sites well-maintained and open to the public, because overall we don't have that impressive a sum of them.