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Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:30 pm
by rev
They can propose all they like.
But what really needs to happen is the image of Port Adelaide needs to change.
It's image is that of a run down dirty hole.
Change it's image to a positive one, and then everything else will start to happen.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:51 pm
by Wayno
Image change is a result of action - you can't simply click your fingers.
I like the idea of reinvigorating the Hart's Mill precinct, but what's proposed just won't cut it. It'll be another humdrum suburban park. Markets work well where people are located, and that's not yet the case here.
The Govt must think BIGGER. The land is large enough to incorporate something larger - perhaps a boutique hotel or pub or similar. There has to be a cash generating business attached to the site - otherwise it'll be a drain on the SA Govt & local council. The Birkenhead Tavern is regularly packed with people, but a downside is it faces south-east (meaning the outdoor dining area is in shade from early-afternoon). Position a north facing architecturally stunning pub/restaurant on the Hart's Mill site, with heaps of lawn out front for the kids to play on - and you'll have a winner! Use the rent from the building lease to fund the markets & general upkeep of the precinct.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:19 pm
by SRW
Finally in motion:
Renewal project extended to empty Port shops
James Hancock,
ABC News Online, 2 August 2012
A project which has been bringing new life to vacant buildings in the Adelaide CBD is being extended to a run-down part of Port Adelaide.
Renew Adelaide was launched two years ago with the opening of a fashion boutique and reading room in previously vacant shops in Hindley Street.
The project has now partnered with the South Australian Government's Port Adelaide Renewal Project to fill empty shops at the corner of Commercial Road and St Vincent Street.
Ianto Ware from Renew Adelaide hopes artistic businesses can attract more people to the Port.
"They're zoned for retail and they are small shopfronts and they're the kind of things that it would be good to see small fashion, book stores, probably what I'd be looking at is people who are making and trying to sell something that you look at and ... no-one else in South Australia is doing this," he said.
"The way to do that isn't necessarily to install a gigantic new flagship venture, it's to get more small-scale activity."
Mayor Gary Johanson said it was wonderful news.
"A positive catalyst to grow the interest in the Port," he said.
The tenants pay only their utilities bills.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:09 pm
by rev
As if this hasn't been posted yet..
Port Mayor Gary Johanson calls for underwater glass tunnel so tourists can watch dolphins
AN UNDERWATER glass tunnel should be built under the Birkenhead Bridge, Port Adelaide Enfield Mayor Gary Johanson says.
He says the tunnel would allow people to safely cross the Port River and view the resident dolphins under the water.
"Instead of playing Russian roulette when you cross the bridge, one way to fix that ... is to go underwater in a glass tube," Mr Johanson said.
"It would also be good to meet them (the dolphins) close up without giving them any grief.
"You could look out at the dolphins and they could look back at you. It would be one of the best things in the world."
Mr Johanson did not know how much the glass tunnel would cost, but thought it "wouldn't be that expensive."
"Once it is constructed, there would be no operating costs other than cleaning the glass.
"The value it would bring to tourism, you couldn't put a cost on.
"It would get tourists flocking to the Port."
Mr Johanson planned to raise the idea with the council, pending feedback from local residents.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6451819860
Not sure how deep that section of the Port River is? Isn't the water polluted and mucky up that way?
Perhaps it would work well with a below ground aquarium as well?
The bridge it self needs to be replaced, imo it's one of the biggest eyesores in the area.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:03 pm
by monotonehell
Port Mayor Gary Johanson understands nothing about how light travels underwater, opacity due to pollutants, maintenance of underwater structures, or anything.
Fantastic idea is fantasy.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:05 pm
by crawf
rev wrote:The bridge it self needs to be replaced, imo it's one of the biggest eyesores in the area.
Agreed.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:46 am
by Goya's Line
I think the Birkenhead Bridge is heritage listed, probably because it was the first bascule bridge in Australia.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:06 pm
by Nort
An absolutely fantasy for the location, and an insurance nightmare to boot. Imagine a boat accidentally dragging an anchor into it.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:10 pm
by Ben
Nort wrote:An absolutely fantasy for the location, and an insurance nightmare to boot. Imagine a boat accidentally dragging an anchor into it.
let's all shoot him down for coming up with an idea - he's doing more just suggesting something than anyone else.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:10 am
by omada
Port Adelaide will have to undergo the process of gentrification like any other suburb, it will take time. It has alot going for it, I love all the heritage buildings and the remnants of old industry. If the new development plan can be sensitive to the areas charms, then I think the Port will be a great place in the future.
A small, but significant step can be achieved with Renew Adelaide's use of unleased shops.
I know there is a train line , but what about a Tram into the very centre of Port Adelaide? And why not make it a heritage Tram?
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:26 pm
by rev
omada wrote:Port Adelaide will have to undergo the process of gentrification like any other suburb, it will take time. It has alot going for it, I love all the heritage buildings and the remnants of old industry. If the new development plan can be sensitive to the areas charms, then I think the Port will be a great place in the future.
A small, but significant step can be achieved with Renew Adelaide's use of unleased shops.
I know there is a train line , but what about a Tram into the very centre of Port Adelaide? And why not make it a heritage Tram?
If they run one of the old H(??) Class trams, the "preserve historic eyesores" movement will only be strengthened.
I think part of truly revitalizing the Port is to actually see it as proper satellite city/cbd rather then just another suburb. And I don't mean building 100m+ skyscrapers.
But like you said it will take time.
Nort wrote:An absolutely fantasy for the location, and an insurance nightmare to boot. Imagine a boat accidentally dragging an anchor into it.
Why would a vessel anchor off under the bridge?
Much like their are road rules, there are maritime laws for vessels.
If this was built, it would be clearly marked and identifiable. They could even place buoys above it, so vessels know it's approximate location by sight.
This is a bold idea for Adelaide. People in this state and city need to embrace such bold ideas. Even if they don't all come to fruition.
I'd rather have cool little things like this pop up around the city, then a cluster of a dozen 200m skyscrapers. These little things are what will make our city, not skyscrapers alone.
Goya's Line wrote:I think the Birkenhead Bridge is heritage listed, probably because it was the first bascule bridge in Australia.
Be that as it may, the bridge is an eyesore. First of it's kind in the country or not, it needs to go.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:25 pm
by Hooligan
Isn't the entire Port river a shipping channel? therefore being illegal to drop anchor in it?
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:34 pm
by eKwatee
Why cant they open up the Port River through to west lakes and provide water taxis from all the residential pontoons through to the Port, New Port & Birkinhead Pub?
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:43 am
by crawf
Maybe because it would pollute the lake?, and that area is home to some wealthy residents.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:38 am
by claybro
eKwatee wrote:Why cant they open up the Port River through to west lakes and provide water taxis from all the residential pontoons through to the Port, New Port & Birkinhead Pub?
Sounds like a great idea in theory, however the level of the lake is carefully managed by water flow between high and low tide via an intake off the beach at Grange piped into the Souther End of the rowing lake, and the other end into the Port River. At low tde when the Port River is low, it is possible to see water flowing out of the lake into the Port River. To completely open up the Norhten end of the lake into the river would require some sort of low tide barrage furhter along the Port River to prevent the Lake becoming more tidal like the Port River is now.