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Th brick looks really nice would be great to have more of this. Will the central markets deployment have it too?

I know its off topic but what is happening to that building in the far left of the previous photo? Its covered in vandalism

baytram366 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:39 am

I know its off topic but what is happening to that building in the far left of the previous photo? Its covered in vandalism

Was a hotel? proposal for it a few years ago but seems to have gone nowhere.

gnrc_louis wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:56 am

baytram366 wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:39 am

I know its off topic but what is happening to that building in the far left of the previous photo? Its covered in vandalism

Was a hotel? proposal for it a few years ago but seems to have gone nowhere.

It was an 82m hotel build, if I recall rightly. And touted as the first modular build in Australia when it was proposed (modular as in each room was prebuilt and stacked on one another. Never took off, looked pretty good for the tenders but probably land banking for something more large scale down the track. Either way, that section of Waymouth really needs a lot of work done to it, it’s a dive.

from realestate.com:

Blends in well with surrounding recent developments.

modern architecture

Will wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:09 pm

from realestate.com:

Is that not just the most bog average city block in Australia

Need to fill in the gaps with a few more 53m tall buildings there, the box looks like it has a dent

Would be better if every building in that city block wasn’t exactly the same height!

ml69 wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 29, 2024 11:40 pm

Would be better if every building in that city block wasn’t exactly the same height!

I kinda like it. The designs could be better, but having them all around a similar height in that cluster isn't that bad.
More importantly as well I think what's inside and the cost is the bigger issue.

We need more designs like Hayball's Atira to disrupt the analogous built from that those are seemingly accepted as ~better~.
This is a great outcome with an exceptional 'human scale' experience - but agree that the tower above the podium is quite pedestrian in its approach.
Fits perfectly in Adelaide!

I don’t mind these decent density builders but we don’t have enough of the more wow projects. Not yet.

In London the brick facade is used and down very well. I’d love to see more of that in Adelaide, especially after the Market development is done.

Mpol02 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:11 am

I don’t mind these decent density builders but we don’t have enough of the more wow projects. Not yet.

In London the brick facade is used and down very well. I’d love to see more of that in Adelaide, especially after the Market development is done.

Not yet is the key. You need existing density and amenity in the area (in the entire centre while we're at it) to justify that next step up of developments. Melbourne attracts high quality development now, but not before it had to ride out a lot of bland crap.

Were not even talking higher level infrastructure like schools and clinics, but even just having reliability located supermarkets and other boring retail which doesn't happen without having residents.

Absolutely. More incentive needs to occur to make city living appealing to Adelaidians. It’s gotten better but so much room to still grow

Algernon wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:31 am

Mpol02 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:11 am

I don’t mind these decent density builders but we don’t have enough of the more wow projects. Not yet.

In London the brick facade is used and down very well. I’d love to see more of that in Adelaide, especially after the Market development is done.

Not yet is the key. You need existing density and amenity in the area (in the entire centre while we're at it) to justify that next step up of developments. Melbourne attracts high quality development now, but not before it had to ride out a lot of bland crap.

Were not even talking higher level infrastructure like schools and clinics, but even just having reliability located supermarkets and other boring retail which doesn't happen without having residents.

Exactly - the CBD is far from full. There is not much real pressure at this point for developers to build particularly tall or choose creative designs on constrained sites, because there is still so much easily developable land.

Melbourne's CBD is essentially full. It is at a point now where the only real options for most developers are to demolish 5-15 story mid-century buildings and replace them with 70+ level skyscrapers. Or to find creative ways of reusing existing older building stock, much of which is heritage listed.

Adelaide has a long long way to go before it gets to this point. To put things into perspective, Adelaide within the parklands (not including North Adelaide) is about twice the size of the Melbourne CBD. With a significantly smaller population, the demand for that land is a lot lower, and so the premium which can be attracted for the kind of interesting developments many people on this forum would like to see is a lot lower.

At current rates of development, Adelaide probably has a century or more worth of land supply within the parklands. Of course, not all that land is likely to be developed, due to heritage and character constraints, especially in the southern areas. But there is still space for dozens, if not hundreds of buildings on the scale of 181 Waymouth, all built on land which is currently occupied by 1-2 story offices and warehouses, or which is lying vacant or as open-air carparking. Space is simply not at a premium yet.