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Re: The Housing Crisis

#181 Post by Jaymz » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:25 am

This makes for some pretty dire reading, S.A's housing affordability is the worst it's ever been. Remembering that affordability is rated on average earnings and pricing, not by outright property values.

From realestate.com.au today....


SA’s housing unaffordability laid bare in damning new report
Tom Bowden
Tom Bowden, Property Journalist

First published 21 Sep 2024, 5:30am

Housing affordability in SA has never been worse.

That is the damning review from PropTrack’s Housing Affordability report.

The report – a comprehensive measure of the share of homes that households can afford to purchase – reveals housing affordability is at its worst level in at least three decades.

According to the report, an average South Australian would need to have earned a whopping $189,562 to have been able to afford 50 per cent of the homes sold in the 2023/24 financial year.

PropTrack senior economist and report author Angus Moore said there were few green shoots to be found in the report.

“Unfortunately there’s probably not a lot of great news for would-be buyers in here,” he said.

According to the report, an average income household in South Australia – those earning $103,000 – could afford just 16 per cent of homes sold in the state over the past financial year.

This figure was 49 per cent in 2020/21, indicating the steep and swift decline in housing affordability.

Mr Moore said the story for South Australia was bleak.

“South Australia is no longer the affordable state it was,” he said.

“It is now less affordable than Queensland and is now much less affordable than WA and is not far behind Victoria.”

The report reveals an average-income SA household – those earning $103,000 – will need to save for 6.3 years to amass the 20 per cent deposit for a median-priced home.

South Australia also recorded the biggest decline in affordability of any state over the past 12 months.

According to the report, mortgage repayments on a median-priced home as a share of average income have surged to a record high of 37 per cent.

This is higher than the peaks of around 35 per cent reached in 2008 and 1990.

Mr Moore said it was likely many first-time buyers would be reliant on the Bank of Mum and Dad to enter the market.

“If you’re an average income household, and you save 20 per cent of your income, which is quite a substantial chunk, that’s not an easy thing to do,” Mr Moore said.

“It represents a very substantial chunk of your income.

“And many households that are buying are going to be getting that from family or from policies that allow you to purchase with a smaller deposit.”

Mr Moore said the solution to SA’s affordability was simple, but profoundly complex.

“The short answer to a potential solution is to just build more homes – it’s an easy thing to say and a harder thing to do, but that really is the only way we can make housing more affordable,” he said.

“SA is about the middle of the pack in terms of building per capita, and in part that’s a demograhics thing, but it’s not standing out in the way Victoria has over the previous half decade to decade, but there’s certainly more that can be done here.”

Australian Council of Social Services CEO Dr Cassandra Goldie AO said a number of things were needed to ease the current crisis.

“The most immediate relief that can be provided it to increase incomes – no question,” she said.

“We definitely need a large boost in public investment into social and affordable housing – the Government needs to stay the course on bigger investment in that area so we are providing housing which is tied to people’s income so it’s actually affordable for them.

“We also think the tax breaks associated with property investment need to be reviewed so we are encouraging more institutional investors into the property market where they see that providing long-term good renting opportunities for people is turned into a decent housing option.”

With cost of living pressures and soaring rents, biopharmaceutical process engineer Alex Knight, 24, can see why young people aren’t moving out of home.

Mr Knight is currently building his first home in Bowden. But it’s not a goal he’s achieved overnight. Mr Knight first started saving when he was 15, while working at KFC.

He also got help through HomeStart’s graduate loan, which he said allowed him to get in the market earlier and buy a home he liked where he wanted to live.

“I always wanted a home – I didn’t want an apartment, I wanted a home and in the end I compromised and got a townhouse because the market was just so competitive,” he said.

“I really think it will turn out quite nicely, I just need to be patient.”

Set to move in this year, Mr Knight said it had been disheartening watching prices continue to rise as he tried to save.

“I don’t know how anyone moves out of home these days – it’s so rough out there.”

HomeStart CEO Andrew Mills said HomeStart CEO Andrew Mills said it was a challenging environment for first homebuyers.

“For those without access the bank of mum and dad, we provide an opportunity to make their dream a reality.”

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#182 Post by rev » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:34 am

Jaymz wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:25 am
This makes for some pretty dire reading, S.A's housing affordability is the worst it's ever been. Remembering that affordability is rated on average earnings and pricing, not by outright property values.

From realestate.com.au today....


SA’s housing unaffordability laid bare in damning new report
Tom Bowden
Tom Bowden, Property Journalist

First published 21 Sep 2024, 5:30am

Housing affordability in SA has never been worse.

That is the damning review from PropTrack’s Housing Affordability report.

The report – a comprehensive measure of the share of homes that households can afford to purchase – reveals housing affordability is at its worst level in at least three decades.

According to the report, an average South Australian would need to have earned a whopping $189,562 to have been able to afford 50 per cent of the homes sold in the 2023/24 financial year.

PropTrack senior economist and report author Angus Moore said there were few green shoots to be found in the report.

“Unfortunately there’s probably not a lot of great news for would-be buyers in here,” he said.

According to the report, an average income household in South Australia – those earning $103,000 – could afford just 16 per cent of homes sold in the state over the past financial year.

This figure was 49 per cent in 2020/21, indicating the steep and swift decline in housing affordability.

Mr Moore said the story for South Australia was bleak.

“South Australia is no longer the affordable state it was,” he said.

“It is now less affordable than Queensland and is now much less affordable than WA and is not far behind Victoria.”

The report reveals an average-income SA household – those earning $103,000 – will need to save for 6.3 years to amass the 20 per cent deposit for a median-priced home.

South Australia also recorded the biggest decline in affordability of any state over the past 12 months.

According to the report, mortgage repayments on a median-priced home as a share of average income have surged to a record high of 37 per cent.

This is higher than the peaks of around 35 per cent reached in 2008 and 1990.

Mr Moore said it was likely many first-time buyers would be reliant on the Bank of Mum and Dad to enter the market.

“If you’re an average income household, and you save 20 per cent of your income, which is quite a substantial chunk, that’s not an easy thing to do,” Mr Moore said.

“It represents a very substantial chunk of your income.

“And many households that are buying are going to be getting that from family or from policies that allow you to purchase with a smaller deposit.”

Mr Moore said the solution to SA’s affordability was simple, but profoundly complex.

“The short answer to a potential solution is to just build more homes – it’s an easy thing to say and a harder thing to do, but that really is the only way we can make housing more affordable,” he said.

“SA is about the middle of the pack in terms of building per capita, and in part that’s a demograhics thing, but it’s not standing out in the way Victoria has over the previous half decade to decade, but there’s certainly more that can be done here.”

Australian Council of Social Services CEO Dr Cassandra Goldie AO said a number of things were needed to ease the current crisis.

“The most immediate relief that can be provided it to increase incomes – no question,” she said.

“We definitely need a large boost in public investment into social and affordable housing – the Government needs to stay the course on bigger investment in that area so we are providing housing which is tied to people’s income so it’s actually affordable for them.

“We also think the tax breaks associated with property investment need to be reviewed so we are encouraging more institutional investors into the property market where they see that providing long-term good renting opportunities for people is turned into a decent housing option.”

With cost of living pressures and soaring rents, biopharmaceutical process engineer Alex Knight, 24, can see why young people aren’t moving out of home.

Mr Knight is currently building his first home in Bowden. But it’s not a goal he’s achieved overnight. Mr Knight first started saving when he was 15, while working at KFC.

He also got help through HomeStart’s graduate loan, which he said allowed him to get in the market earlier and buy a home he liked where he wanted to live.

“I always wanted a home – I didn’t want an apartment, I wanted a home and in the end I compromised and got a townhouse because the market was just so competitive,” he said.

“I really think it will turn out quite nicely, I just need to be patient.”

Set to move in this year, Mr Knight said it had been disheartening watching prices continue to rise as he tried to save.

“I don’t know how anyone moves out of home these days – it’s so rough out there.”

HomeStart CEO Andrew Mills said HomeStart CEO Andrew Mills said it was a challenging environment for first homebuyers.

“For those without access the bank of mum and dad, we provide an opportunity to make their dream a reality.”
As they say the Australia dream is dead at the moment.
The cost of living crisis isn't getting any better, very little if anything is being done about it. So expect these figures above to blow out even more.

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#183 Post by A-Town » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:37 am

Jaymz wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:25 am
This makes for some pretty dire reading, S.A's housing affordability is the worst it's ever been. Remembering that affordability is rated on average earnings and pricing, not by outright property values.

From realestate.com.au today....


SA’s housing unaffordability laid bare in damning new report
Tom Bowden
Tom Bowden, Property Journalist

First published 21 Sep 2024, 5:30am

Housing affordability in SA has never been worse.

That is the damning review from PropTrack’s Housing Affordability report.

The report – a comprehensive measure of the share of homes that households can afford to purchase – reveals housing affordability is at its worst level in at least three decades.

According to the report, an average South Australian would need to have earned a whopping $189,562 to have been able to afford 50 per cent of the homes sold in the 2023/24 financial year.

PropTrack senior economist and report author Angus Moore said there were few green shoots to be found in the report.

“Unfortunately there’s probably not a lot of great news for would-be buyers in here,” he said.

According to the report, an average income household in South Australia – those earning $103,000 – could afford just 16 per cent of homes sold in the state over the past financial year.

This figure was 49 per cent in 2020/21, indicating the steep and swift decline in housing affordability.

Mr Moore said the story for South Australia was bleak.

“South Australia is no longer the affordable state it was,” he said.

“It is now less affordable than Queensland and is now much less affordable than WA and is not far behind Victoria.”

The report reveals an average-income SA household – those earning $103,000 – will need to save for 6.3 years to amass the 20 per cent deposit for a median-priced home.

South Australia also recorded the biggest decline in affordability of any state over the past 12 months.

According to the report, mortgage repayments on a median-priced home as a share of average income have surged to a record high of 37 per cent.

This is higher than the peaks of around 35 per cent reached in 2008 and 1990.

Mr Moore said it was likely many first-time buyers would be reliant on the Bank of Mum and Dad to enter the market.

“If you’re an average income household, and you save 20 per cent of your income, which is quite a substantial chunk, that’s not an easy thing to do,” Mr Moore said.

“It represents a very substantial chunk of your income.

“And many households that are buying are going to be getting that from family or from policies that allow you to purchase with a smaller deposit.”

Mr Moore said the solution to SA’s affordability was simple, but profoundly complex.

“The short answer to a potential solution is to just build more homes – it’s an easy thing to say and a harder thing to do, but that really is the only way we can make housing more affordable,” he said.

“SA is about the middle of the pack in terms of building per capita, and in part that’s a demograhics thing, but it’s not standing out in the way Victoria has over the previous half decade to decade, but there’s certainly more that can be done here.”

Australian Council of Social Services CEO Dr Cassandra Goldie AO said a number of things were needed to ease the current crisis.

“The most immediate relief that can be provided it to increase incomes – no question,” she said.

“We definitely need a large boost in public investment into social and affordable housing – the Government needs to stay the course on bigger investment in that area so we are providing housing which is tied to people’s income so it’s actually affordable for them.

“We also think the tax breaks associated with property investment need to be reviewed so we are encouraging more institutional investors into the property market where they see that providing long-term good renting opportunities for people is turned into a decent housing option.”

With cost of living pressures and soaring rents, biopharmaceutical process engineer Alex Knight, 24, can see why young people aren’t moving out of home.

Mr Knight is currently building his first home in Bowden. But it’s not a goal he’s achieved overnight. Mr Knight first started saving when he was 15, while working at KFC.

He also got help through HomeStart’s graduate loan, which he said allowed him to get in the market earlier and buy a home he liked where he wanted to live.

“I always wanted a home – I didn’t want an apartment, I wanted a home and in the end I compromised and got a townhouse because the market was just so competitive,” he said.

“I really think it will turn out quite nicely, I just need to be patient.”

Set to move in this year, Mr Knight said it had been disheartening watching prices continue to rise as he tried to save.

“I don’t know how anyone moves out of home these days – it’s so rough out there.”

HomeStart CEO Andrew Mills said HomeStart CEO Andrew Mills said it was a challenging environment for first homebuyers.

“For those without access the bank of mum and dad, we provide an opportunity to make their dream a reality.”
Incredibly dire reading, indeed. Our politicians have completely failed younger generations.

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#184 Post by SBD » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:23 pm

rev wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:49 am
114 suburbs in Adelaide with a median of $1 million or more. That's about a quarter of all suburbs.

https://www.realestate.com.au/news/reve ... f-over-1m/

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Suburb	Number Sold 12 months	Median Sale Price 12 months	Change in Median Price 12 months
Medindie	18	$3,120,000	6.2
Unley Park	19	$2,760,000	23.4
Rose Park	10	$2,600,000	N/A
Springfield	11	$2,550,000	N/A
Malvern	31	$2,460,000	15.1
Tennyson	14	$2,335,000	18.2
Hyde Park	13	$2,250,000	N/A
St Peters	38	$2,177,500	14.6
Glenelg South	33	$2,165,500	N/A
Leabrook	15	$2,150,000	N/A
Toorak Gardens	27	$2,000,000	20.5
College Park	14	$1,975,000	N/A
Dulwich	18	$1,927,500	5.5
Tusmore	18	$1,927,500	16.3
Netherby	26	$1,920,000	44.9
Joslin	15	$1,895,000	20.3
Rosslyn Park	28	$1,872,500	39.3
Erindale	22	$1,865,000	14.6
St Georges	31	$1,850,000	16.4
Millswood	25	$1,840,000	22.7
Unley	52	$1,829,000	24
Hazelwood Park	33	$1,810,000	12.6
Highgate	25	$1,800,000	37.4
Hawthorn	34	$1,772,500	7.6
Walkerville	40	$1,727,500	-5.7
Beaumont	42	$1,697,500	4.5
Westbourne Park	39	$1,650,000	25.1
Gilberton	22	$1,637,500	135.6
Urrbrae	27	$1,625,000	18.6
Myrtle Bank	36	$1,620,000	20
Somerton Park	86	$1,617,500	27.4
Glenunga	31	$1,600,000	-7.4
Kingswood	24	$1,585,000	-3.9
Henley Beach South	52	$1,580,000	16.4
Glenelg	23	$1,580,000	1.2
Wayville	12	$1,562,500	35.8
Goodwood	44	$1,555,000	10.4
Linden Park	35	$1,549,000	19.7
Colonel Light Gardens	27	$1,520,000	25.6
Glenelg East	42	$1,514,000	13.8
Kensington Park	34	$1,510,000	18
Burnside	45	$1,500,000	16.1
Teringie	12	$1,488,750	8.7
Fullarton	33	$1,483,000	23.1
Stonyfell	19	$1,475,000	0.3
Royston Park	17	$1,467,000	-2
Glen Osmond	29	$1,450,000	16.6
Kensington Gardens	43	$1,450,000	-6.5
Seacliff	21	$1,430,000	31.8
Henley Beach	81	$1,425,000	2.2
Beulah Park	22	$1,410,000	17.2
Torrens Park	50	$1,405,250	10.4
Stirling	54	$1,405,000	15.2
St Morris	26	$1,400,750	42.4
Mitcham	32	$1,400,000	15
Wattle Park	47	$1,400,000	18.6
Trinity Gardens	22	$1,375,000	-1.8
Lower Mitcham	26	$1,362,550	20
North Brighton	44	$1,345,000	22.3
North Adelaide	86	$1,340,000	34
Heathfield	10	$1,340,000	35.4
Glenside	51	$1,338,580	3.8
Parkside	78	$1,328,000	15.5
Aldgate	50	$1,327,500	14.3
Frewville	12	$1,322,500	N/A
Grange	107	$1,320,000	14.8
Fulham	66	$1,315,000	16.4
South Brighton	55	$1,315,000	48.6
West Beach	59	$1,300,000	6.6
Brighton	55	$1,300,000	14.8
Payneham South	15	$1,296,500	36.5
Glenelg North	100	$1,285,000	29.3
Sunnyside	10	$1,275,000	N/A
Maylands	17	$1,265,000	-9.2
Marino	41	$1,250,000	22.5
Cumberland Park	25	$1,245,000	7.8
Eastwood	12	$1,245,000	N/A
Kensington	18	$1,229,500	N/A
Marryatville	10	$1,226,000	N/A
Black Forest	16	$1,212,500	9.6
Craigburn Farm	38	$1,203,500	12.7
Croydon	20	$1,202,000	37.4
Payneham	27	$1,200,000	26.3
Crafers	27	$1,200,000	11.4
West Lakes	99	$1,180,000	37.2
Vale Park	41	$1,175,000	11.9
Clarence Park	31	$1,167,000	-0.1
West Hindmarsh	17	$1,150,000	44.5
Belair	61	$1,150,000	21.3
Hove	58	$1,145,000	6.5
Glengowrie	86	$1,142,500	10.4
Glandore	34	$1,141,000	15.8
Lockleys	79	$1,140,000	3.6
Fulham Gardens	72	$1,135,000	15.8
Kent Town	10	$1,125,000	N/A
Prospect	124	$1,125,000	22
West Lakes Shore	42	$1,125,000	17.2
Manningham	18	$1,120,000	24.6
Nailsworth	20	$1,104,000	-2.7
Tranmere	62	$1,100,000	19.2
Stepney	18	$1,080,000	N/A
Clarence Gardens	32	$1,074,500	16.8
Marden	36	$1,050,000	19.7
Woodville Park	18	$1,050,000	36.4
Firle	26	$1,040,000	11.3
Magill	172	$1,035,000	14.9
Glynde	23	$1,025,000	18.2
Evandale	12	$1,022,500	-20.4
Daw Park	28	$1,019,500	24.8
Felixstow	46	$1,014,500	12.4
Seacliff Park	48	$1,007,500	26.7
Novar Gardens	30	$1,002,500	3.9
West Croydon	48	$1,000,250	8.1
Sefton Park	13	$1,000,000	20.8
I wonder about the quality of the data. There are some suspect suburbs in the list of higher-priced ones, including Sunnyside which is a "suburb of Adelaide" on the eastern side of the Murray River. I think it's the only rural suburb in the list, but makes me wonder about data quality.

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#185 Post by Norman » Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:56 pm

Adelaide has a great Boomer population that is slowly heading towards their twilight years. I'm curious how the market will look like once they start selling their houses. 🤔

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#186 Post by SBD » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:52 am

Norman wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:56 pm
Adelaide has a great Boomer population that is slowly heading towards their twilight years. I'm curious how the market will look like once they start selling their houses. 🤔
Hmm - the Millennials who supposedly will never be able to buy a house will find (a fraction of if shared with siblings/cousins) one gifted to them, and discover that 1 parking space, 1 bathroom, and a kitchen with no dishwasher and due for a major renovation isn't quite the same as what they couldn't afford as a modern "basic house"?

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#187 Post by gnrc_louis » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:01 pm

SBD wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:52 am
Norman wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:56 pm
Adelaide has a great Boomer population that is slowly heading towards their twilight years. I'm curious how the market will look like once they start selling their houses. 🤔
Hmm - the Millennials who supposedly will never be able to buy a house will find (a fraction of if shared with siblings/cousins) one gifted to them, and discover that 1 parking space, 1 bathroom, and a kitchen with no dishwasher and due for a major renovation isn't quite the same as what they couldn't afford as a modern "basic house"?
What?

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#188 Post by abc » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:41 pm

ironic this sub forum is called "The Pub" when pubs are going the way of the dodo as nobody wants to drink $15 pints
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Re: The Housing Crisis

#189 Post by A-Town » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:49 pm

abc wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:41 pm
ironic this sub forum is called "The Pub" when pubs are going the way of the dodo as nobody wants to drink $15 pints
Agreed. The beer tax in this country is disgusting.

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#190 Post by rev » Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:57 pm

There may be millions of millennials who will inherit a property from their parents, but people shouldn't be in a position where their only reasonable chance of home ownership is when their parents die and leave them the house.

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#191 Post by Jaymz » Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:50 pm

It's not only Boomers leaving the family home when they pass on, but they are often stumping up house deposits for their kids or grand kids. Or at the very least having them live at home until their late 20's or even 30's while they save a deposit.

Granted, the 20% deposit required to buy a property has made it extremely difficult. When I built my first home in the early noughties, I did so with a 5% deposit (from a Big 4 bank) which was also assisted by a $14k first home owners grant. These grants have since become useless and do nothing other than stoke property prices even further.

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#192 Post by SBD » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:30 pm

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Tue Sep 24, 2024 1:50 pm
It's not only Boomers leaving the family home when they pass on, but they are often stumping up house deposits for their kids or grand kids. Or at the very least having them live at home until their late 20's or even 30's while they save a deposit.

Granted, the 20% deposit required to buy a property has made it extremely difficult. When I built my first home in the early noughties, I did so with a 5% deposit (from a Big 4 bank) which was also assisted by a $14k first home owners grant. These grants have since become useless and do nothing other than stoke property prices even further.
We started in the early 1990s.I think we had a 10% deposit for a loan from one of the "housing co-operatives" that have since rolled up into second-tier banks, but no first home owner grant. Interest rates were coming down through 13.5%

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#193 Post by SBD » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:36 pm

rev wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:57 pm
There may be millions of millennials who will inherit a property from their parents, but people shouldn't be in a position where their only reasonable chance of home ownership is when their parents die and leave them the house.
I still have some connections into farming communities. It's very hard for an aspiring young farmer to get a farm if he/she/they don't have an ancestral farm to inherit, and has been for a long time. I'm not sure I can think of any farmer I know (admittedly a small and declining group) under 60 who isn't on a family farm or moved with money derived from one.

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Re: The Housing Crisis

#194 Post by abc » Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:43 pm

SBD wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:36 pm
rev wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:57 pm
There may be millions of millennials who will inherit a property from their parents, but people shouldn't be in a position where their only reasonable chance of home ownership is when their parents die and leave them the house.
I still have some connections into farming communities. It's very hard for an aspiring young farmer to get a farm if he/she/they don't have an ancestral farm to inherit, and has been for a long time. I'm not sure I can think of any farmer I know (admittedly a small and declining group) under 60 who isn't on a family farm or moved with money derived from one.
this is by design... multinationals will buy up all the farming land eventually
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Re: The Housing Crisis

#195 Post by SBD » Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:00 pm

abc wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 7:43 pm
SBD wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:36 pm
rev wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:57 pm
There may be millions of millennials who will inherit a property from their parents, but people shouldn't be in a position where their only reasonable chance of home ownership is when their parents die and leave them the house.
I still have some connections into farming communities. It's very hard for an aspiring young farmer to get a farm if he/she/they don't have an ancestral farm to inherit, and has been for a long time. I'm not sure I can think of any farmer I know (admittedly a small and declining group) under 60 who isn't on a family farm or moved with money derived from one.
this is by design... multinationals will buy up all the farming land eventually
We move in different circles - all the people I know who work on farms work on family farms, except for some of the vineyards. Even there, the large wine companies still buy grapes from private vineyards as well as the company vineyards. They don't own their full supply chain.

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