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Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:37 pm
by monotonehell
muzzamo wrote:requiring special busses,
Not that special.. just some little wheels.. and a floor that doesn't vibrate ...
muzzamo wrote:not allowing vehicles to pass each other,
They can pass at the stations, same as a non-guided busway. It's unsafe to pass on a regular busway.
muzzamo wrote:and not allowing emergency vehicles are 3 things that come to mind
They provided regular and well documented access gates along the route for that.
muzzamo wrote:But the concept of a busway in general was waaay ahead of its time for Australia, and many, many years on we are still reaping its benefits
I'm glad you agree... *puts down cricket bat* *pats cricket bat*
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:58 am
by Norman
monotonehell wrote:muzzamo wrote:requiring special busses,
Not that special.. just some little wheels.. and a floor that doesn't vibrate ...
Actually, it's a little more complicated than that. They also need to be powerful enough to make any hills at speed (such as the climb at Hope Valley Reservoir) and need to be a right length to combat skidding or whatever problems they had again.
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:31 pm
by Cruise
A new model articulated bus is being designed for the O-Bahn and its not far away now, that is all i will say
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:27 pm
by Norman
Cruise wrote:A new model articulated bus is being designed for the O-Bahn and its not far away now, that is all i will say
Thanks Cruise. That's one good thing about you working at your place of employment
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:32 pm
by Omicron
monotonehell wrote:Omicron wrote:I for one would like to purchase an asshat and wear it out this weekend.
You do that (just remember that it's V8 weekend).
I think I'll book an ambulance in advance.
I took a tram into town last night and it was absolutely jam-packed, but in a good 'there's something happening in Adelaide!' kind of way.
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:49 am
by Cruise
Norman wrote:Cruise wrote:A new model articulated bus is being designed for the O-Bahn and its not far away now, that is all i will say
Thanks Cruise. That's one good thing about you working at your place of employment
Well if i must be good for one thing
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:00 am
by monotonehell
Cruise wrote:Norman wrote:Cruise wrote:A new model articulated bus is being designed for the O-Bahn and its not far away now, that is all i will say
Thanks Cruise. That's one good thing about you working at your place of employment
Well if i must be good for one thing
I'm sure you're good for at least two things...
(I have no idea what that means
)
Thanks Cruise, this is interesting news, hopefully a solution can be found soon.
I'm feeling generous tonight - OBahns for everyone!
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:09 am
by Cruise
monotonehell wrote:
I'm sure you're good for at least two things...
(I have no idea what that means
)
Thanks Cruise, this is interesting news, hopefully a solution can be found soon.
I'm feeling generous tonight - OBahns for everyone!
I am interested in finding out the second thing
Anyway i know more than i will tell you all, i feel so powerful!!!
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:46 am
by monotonehell
Cruise wrote:I am interested in finding out the second thing
Anyway i know more than i will tell you all, i feel so powerful!!!
Ultimate power corrupts ultimately, while a small amount of power is just annoying.
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:40 pm
by Cruise
Norman wrote:monotonehell wrote:muzzamo wrote:requiring special busses,
Not that special.. just some little wheels.. and a floor that doesn't vibrate ...
Actually, it's a little more complicated than that. They also need to be powerful enough to make any hills at speed (such as the climb at Hope Valley Reservoir) and need to be a right length to combat skidding or whatever problems they had again.
Actually its not, all they have is a guide wheel bolted on each side.
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:50 pm
by AtD
Cruise wrote:Actually its not, all they have is a guide wheel bolted on each side.
It's always been a problem with the Merc Artics where the trailer's tyre would scrape along the track at specific corners at specific speeds.
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:14 pm
by monotonehell
AtD wrote:Cruise wrote:Actually its not, all they have is a guide wheel bolted on each side.
It's always been a problem with the Merc Artics where the trailer's tyre would scrape along the track at specific corners at specific speeds.
LOL I remember before they introduced the slower speeds on the inner section that the artics' rear wheels used to squeal worringly on the corners when certain drivers used to gun it a little much.
What ever happened to the recommended rear guide wheels on artics?
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:46 pm
by The_Q915
AtD wrote:The_Q915 wrote:If I may point out a few areas which could of been better managed.
What fool anticipates a growth in patronage but does not increase capacity. The trams can not be coupled and each carrys less then the existing trams. Frequencys can not be increased because they did not build grade seperations. They are building an overpass over south road probably with more distruptions then if they had done it when the whole line was being upgraded. They also tryed to cut short the resleeping of the tracks. This lead to derailments and futer cost in fixing the tracks. They rushed the purchase of the trams to be ready by the next election possiably leading to us paying much more then we could have. If I can remember they cost almost 6m each. Much more then melbourne pays.
You haven't been playing with Wikipedia recently, have you?
Yes I have, and?
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:21 pm
by Norman
Will409 wrote:Got a couple of photos of the new framing at Railway Station stop yesterday morning. These have also been installed at Rundle Mall. I'll update you all on whether Pirie Street and City West stops have these as well tommorrow when I go to TAFE.
Here you go Will
Re: Glenelg Tram Line Upgrade
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:59 pm
by Wayno
i have not been following this thread closely, so excuse me if i'm reopening a resolved conversation:
I presume heaps of people from Wayville, Goodwood & Hyde Park travel on the Trams to the CBD each day. Given the peak hour tram congestion, does it make sense to have extra trams run between Goodwood <--> North Terrace (instead of going all the way to glenelg). I presume an extra siding would need to be created near Goodwood? would this work?