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[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:34 pm
by skyliner
Hope they get it! It is one of the better looking proposals in Adelaide - what better area than Hindmarsh Sq. with Conservatory and the hotel/resi, redevelpment of the Sq., and the changing face of the carpark nearby.
Like others have said, it's time to leave the restrictions of the 1800's behind. If airspace is an issue - which it was in the 1980's - I'd like to understand the very slowly lifting height limit in the early 1980's from approx. 19 floors.(AMP building) to Santos/Westapac bldg.(mid 1980's). Do planes come in from a higher/different trajectory now - or is it all a con??
As an extra - this pyramid shaped CBD concept that is purportedly desired by the ACC, and used to dstop such developments as Aurora, does not measure up when including KWS south developments - all accepted by the very same ACC. IMO it is so much garbage due to inconsistencies.
ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER SKYLINE
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:16 pm
by bva
this should not get major project status
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:26 pm
by Cruise
bva wrote:this should not get major project status
Amen
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:32 pm
by Ben
If this does get major project status that is pretty much the end for the ACC DAP. As most of their refusals are getting over turned by the government:
Conservatory on Hindmarsh
Le Cornu Site
Victoria Park Redevelopment.
To name a few.
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:01 pm
by Pistol
I hope this building gets approval, in some form or another, but I think that Hines have gone the wrong way about it. As for major project status... this really is only a 15 storey commercial block. There is no real reason that it should get major project status apart from the fact that it is already 40% sold.
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:14 pm
by AtD
bva wrote:this should not get major project status
Why?
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:58 pm
by rev
beamer85 wrote:If this does get major project status that is pretty much the end for the ACC DAP
Now that is something to sing Hallelujah about!
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:44 am
by Ho Really
skyliner wrote:Like others have said, it's time to leave the restrictions of the 1800's behind. If airspace is an issue - which it was in the 1980's - I'd like to understand the very slowly lifting height limit in the early 1980's from approx. 19 floors.(AMP building) to Santos/Westapac bldg.(mid 1980's). Do planes come in from a higher/different trajectory now - or is it all a con??
Adelaide may have to wait until planes take off vertically to see any height restrictions lifted. 
As an extra - this pyramid shaped CBD concept that is purportedly desired by the ACC, and used to dstop such developments as Aurora, does not measure up when including KWS south developments - all accepted by the very same ACC. IMO it is so much garbage due to inconsistencies.
It makes the city look like a Disney fairytale castle. Yes, I also think this is laughable.
Cheers
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:02 pm
by Cruise
if any thing adelaide should go for a tall skyline stetching east to west, making it look bigger than it actually is,
though i dont believe this devolpment deserves MPS id love to see the ACC be gone with.
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:06 pm
by skyliner
Cruise control - amen to everything you said - they don't deserve MPS but need it.
ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:25 pm
by jimmy_2486
Ho Really wrote:skyliner wrote:Like others have said, it's time to leave the restrictions of the 1800's behind. If airspace is an issue - which it was in the 1980's - I'd like to understand the very slowly lifting height limit in the early 1980's from approx. 19 floors.(AMP building) to Santos/Westapac bldg.(mid 1980's). Do planes come in from a higher/different trajectory now - or is it all a con??
Adelaide may have to wait until planes take off vertically to see any height restrictions lifted.
As an extra - this pyramid shaped CBD concept that is purportedly desired by the ACC, and used to dstop such developments as Aurora, does not measure up when including KWS south developments - all accepted by the very same ACC. IMO it is so much garbage due to inconsistencies.
It makes the city look like a Disney fairytale castle. Yes, I also think this is laughable.
Cheers
It all has to revert back to that damn airport doesn't it!!
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:51 pm
by skyliner
I really wonder if anything would be any different if there were no airport - too many nimbys around. All the noise from them bespeaks a prevailing attitude overhung from the 1890's. Look at what happened to Glenelg.
I'm probably too cynical in this however and Adelaide to me still takes some beating!
ADELAIDE - A GREATER PLACE I'VE YET TO FIND.
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:28 pm
by Ben
Seems the council is recommended to approve this building on Monday whether they do or not is another thing.
The new proposal is essentially the same as the old one except:
- The 2 building will now be more disticnt, one 15lv 53m and one 14 lv 50m
the balconies on the Western Side are to be removed
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:00 pm
by Shuz
2m difference!?
okay, well heres hoping.
[COM] Re: #Rejected: Aurora on Pirie, 15st 55m
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:33 pm
by Will
beamer85 wrote:Seems the council is recommended to approve this building on Monday whether they do or not is another thing.
The new proposal is essentially the same as the old one except:
- The 2 building will now be more disticnt, one 15lv 53m and one 14 lv 50m
the balconies on the Western Side are to be removed
In addition the top level of the eastern building will now be set back 10m from the northern boundary, and 7m from the eastern boundary, giving the building the impression of a 13 level - 46.7m tall building when viewed from ground level.
*The balconies will be removed from the western building, together with revision of architectural expression and proportions of that building.
*the proportions of the eastern building will also be remodelled.
*The roofline profiles of both buildings will also be changed.