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Norman wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:10 pm

They lost me at "trackless trams". It's a bus.

Living here for just under a year it is clear that public transport is very infrequent and very limited in where it goes. I have been more reliant on my car than ever before.

The basics they need to do include:
- Increasing weekend train frequency to every 15 or 20 minutes
- Add additional train services into the peak shoulder periods of 9am to 11am and 3pm to 5pm
- Introduce on-demand bus services to cover gaps in cross-suburban routes
- Align more bus services to service mid-sized shopping centres such as Hollywood Plaza
- Turn Parafield Station into an interchange with connecting buses along Kings Road and McIntyre Road towards Golden Grove and/or Tea Tree Plaza
- Introduce a frequent connector bus between Mawson Lakes and Port Adelaide along the Port River Expressway.

Other things they should be doing include:
- Completing the Gawler Greenway along the railway line. There are several missing parts, including Islington to Mawson Lakes and Parafield to Salisbury
- Duplicating Ender Smith Drive and connecting it to Port Wakefield Road

These things aren't hard or expensive. They just need some planning and budgeting from the State Government.

Further down the track they can include more expensive things like:
- Connecting Salisbury Highway to Montague Road
- Connecting rail to Riverlea/Virginia
- Build a third track between Ovingham or Dudley Park and Grand Junction Road to allow express trains to pass.
- Extend the platforms and run 6-car trains in peak hours.

SBD wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:21 am

Norman wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:10 pm

They lost me at "trackless trams". It's a bus.

Living here for just under a year it is clear that public transport is very infrequent and very limited in where it goes. I have been more reliant on my car than ever before.

The basics they need to do include:
- Increasing weekend train frequency to every 15 or 20 minutes
- Add additional train services into the peak shoulder periods of 9am to 11am and 3pm to 5pm
- Introduce on-demand bus services to cover gaps in cross-suburban routes
- Align more bus services to service mid-sized shopping centres such as Hollywood Plaza
- Turn Parafield Station into an interchange with connecting buses along Kings Road and McIntyre Road towards Golden Grove and/or Tea Tree Plaza
- Introduce a frequent connector bus between Mawson Lakes and Port Adelaide along the Port River Expressway.

Other things they should be doing include:
- Completing the Gawler Greenway along the railway line. There are several missing parts, including Islington to Mawson Lakes and Parafield to Salisbury
- Duplicating Ender Smith Drive and connecting it to Port Wakefield Road

These things aren't hard or expensive. They just need some planning and budgeting from the State Government.

Further down the track they can include more expensive things like:
- Connecting Salisbury Highway to Montague Road
- Connecting rail to Riverlea/Virginia
- Build a third track between Ovingham or Dudley Park and Grand Junction Road to allow express trains to pass.
- Extend the platforms and run 6-car trains in peak hours.

I agree with much of your list.
* Gawler Greenway is also missing north of Munno Para.
* I disagree about 6-car trains:
** They would increase the "dead" walking distance at Adelaide station, and probably most other stations
** 3 cars every 7.5 minutes is a more attractive service that 6 cars every 15 minutes
**Maybe more signalling is required to increase peak hour frequency, but that's still better than longer trains. It's OK to miss one if you can see the next train approaching.
*More grade-separated road/pedestrian crossings over the railway

A summary of responses to the Greater Adelaide Regional Plan Discussion Paper was released on 22 December. Many submissions referred to public and active transport, infrastructure, housing and greening. The specific discussion of Public and Active Transport is cursory (see below).

Individual submissions are available via the link in the Summary Document. Some provide detailed discussion of how public and active transport can be improved. See what your Council, politician, community group etc. said.

Public Transport
Hundreds of comments about public transport were received, with respondents responding both generally and specifically about the kinds of public transport services that should be available in Greater Adelaide. Key feedback themes included:

Suggestions that substantial investment in public transport infrastructure is required to reduce car dependency across Greater Adelaide region. Many modes of public transport were specifically mentioned, including extending existing tramways, and adding new lines, electrification and extension of train lines, and the expansion of bus rapid transit services.

Increased investment in public transport and cycling and walking infrastructure is considered by many to help enhance ‘living locally’ and reduce emissions, resulting in better environmental outcomes.

ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:42 pm

A summary from the GARP re: public transport.

A summary of responses to the Greater Adelaide Regional Plan Discussion Paper was released on 22 December. Many submissions referred to public and active transport, infrastructure, housing and greening. The specific discussion of Public and Active Transport is cursory (see below).

Individual submissions are available via the link in the Summary Document. Some provide detailed discussion of how public and active transport can be improved. See what your Council, politician, community group etc. said.

Public Transport
Hundreds of comments about public transport were received, with respondents responding both generally and specifically about the kinds of public transport services that should be available in Greater Adelaide. Key feedback themes included:

Suggestions that substantial investment in public transport infrastructure is required to reduce car dependency across Greater Adelaide region. Many modes of public transport were specifically mentioned, including extending existing tramways, and adding new lines, electrification and extension of train lines, and the expansion of bus rapid transit services.

Increased investment in public transport and cycling and walking infrastructure is considered by many to help enhance ‘living locally’ and reduce emissions, resulting in better environmental outcomes.

Access the summary here. https://plan.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pd ... -Paper.pdf

rubberman wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:30 am

Heavy rail excels at high speed, large station spacing, long trains, large passenger numbers at each stop.

Trams and buses typically have lower speeds, closer stations, shorter trains, small passenger numbers per stop.

At the moment, Adelaide heavy rail for the most part is trying to be a tram operation. At some point, unless it reforms to actually run like heavy rail should, it will be scrapped, and the only people who will notice will be railfans.

Norman wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:37 am

rubberman wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:30 am

Heavy rail excels at high speed, large station spacing, long trains, large passenger numbers at each stop.

Trams and buses typically have lower speeds, closer stations, shorter trains, small passenger numbers per stop.

At the moment, Adelaide heavy rail for the most part is trying to be a tram operation. At some point, unless it reforms to actually run like heavy rail should, it will be scrapped, and the only people who will notice will be railfans.

Adelaide's heavy rail system is not much different to other legacy systems across Australia. Station spacing and frequencies are very similar to those in Perth (except new lines built since the 1990s), Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane.

Eurostar wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:54 am

Even many minor railway stations on the Sydney network i.e. Asquith have at least a shop in the vicinity.

SBD wrote:

Eurostar wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:54 am

Even many minor railway stations on the Sydney network i.e. Asquith have at least a shop in the vicinity.

We still have one or two stations without even a housing estate nearby, but the government wants to "release for housing" vacant land miles from everything.

I'm not sure why we have policies to "protect" the Barossa Valley and McLaren Vale wine regions, but not the massive vegetable gardens near Virginia and Two Wells and that used to be near Mount Barker and probably other places.

I've spent my entire life living on "former farm land", but if I didn't, someone else would have anyway.

ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:49 pm

SBD wrote:

Eurostar wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:54 am

Even many minor railway stations on the Sydney network i.e. Asquith have at least a shop in the vicinity.

We still have one or two stations without even a housing estate nearby, but the government wants to "release for housing" vacant land miles from everything.

I'm not sure why we have policies to "protect" the Barossa Valley and McLaren Vale wine regions, but not the massive vegetable gardens near Virginia and Two Wells and that used to be near Mount Barker and probably other places.

I've spent my entire life living on "former farm land", but if I didn't, someone else would have anyway.

Agree with you completely, but the policies protecting the Barossa and McLaren Vale are a response to the controversy of Mt Barker's apple orchards being wiped out.

Norman wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:10 pm

They lost me at "trackless trams". It's a bus.

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