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Nope.[Shuz] wrote:I agree mixed use is a good way to get activity around the clock - but don't you think that the Casino adjacent already provides that for the area, being a 24/7 establishment?
Good reply Gough.monotonehell wrote:Nope.[Shuz] wrote:I agree mixed use is a good way to get activity around the clock - but don't you think that the Casino adjacent already provides that for the area, being a 24/7 establishment?
Further to this, the proposed Casino expansion, with the inclusion of the luxury 6 star hotel adjacent to it will only significantly add to the 24/7 vibrancy of the area.[Shuz] wrote:I agree mixed use is a good way to get activity around the clock - but don't you think that the Casino adjacent already provides that for the area, being a 24/7 establishment?
We all know that basically anything that had to do with the ASER redevelopment in the 1980s was a big mistake.Nathan wrote:I think development needs to be restricted to buildings that offer cultural or civic function, or facilities that park users require (restaurants, cafes, etc.). Of the current buildings in the area, the Riverside Centre and the Intercontinental were mistakes and have been a big factor in the current situation of the river being blocked off from the city. If offices and hotels need to be close to the river, casino or Parliament House then there is a perfectly good location known as the south side of North Tce.
While I agree that any offices are best limited to uses that compliment the arts and so on (as per Fed Square, they have SBS's offices there), your statement above contradicts itself. No offices means the only activity will be driven by entertainment, which is very restricted to before and after shows etc. Mostly outside business hours. Your example above would mean that in addition to the crowds coming to and from shows etc, there would be extra foot traffic between "the hours of 8-9am, 12-1pm, and 5-6pm."[Shuz] wrote:...they not very likely to venture outside of the office other than the hours of 8-9am, 12-1pm, and 5-6pm. Hardly a case of 24/7 vibrancy...
http://indaily.com.au/news/2013/07/02/r ... et-a-plan/Riverbank pretty pictures not yet a plan.
InDaily (Liam Mannix) July 2, 2013
Development in the “airspace” over the city’s rail lines, two new pedestrian bridges over the Torrens, and a new crossing on King William Road are all being floated as potential visions for Adelaide’s riverbank.
The ideas, some of which have been sourced from the public, are all possible inclusions in Adelaide’s Riverbank Integration Masterplan.
However, despite being officially launched on Sunday by Renewal SA – in addition to a State Government launch last Monday complete with flyover - the plan itself has not been written yet. Renewal SA is still consulting on a range of ideas ...
Many of the projects currently up for discussion – including a swimming pool on the banks of the Torrens – have not had any detailed work done on them by Renewal SA and are literally nothing more than artists’ impressions.
“Yesterday was really the formal launch of a month-long formal consultation process,” Renewal SA head Fred Hansen told InDaily.
“This is the balancing act that has to be always done at this stage. You want to give enough detail so it sparks people’s ideas.
“But you don’t want to get so much down as if it’s already decided – why bother asking me, if you’ve already made up your minds.”
The website for the plan lists several ideas, which Hansen said had been worked out to varying levels of detail.
PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER THE RAIL YARDS.
This project was needed to connect the new Royal Adelaide Hospital with the river, Hansen said.
The bridge was likely to be the first stage of eventual development over the top of the train lines.
Hansen expected eventually other businesses would develop in the “airspace” over the lines by building supporting structures over them, as the Convention Centre had already done.
TWO NEW PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES across the Torrens.
They are slated to cross the Torrens east of King William Road, one on either side of the existing university footbridge.
The two new bridges are the key to creating an unbroken pedestrian and cycle “River Path” between Hackney and Bowden. The path and the bridges are among the most detailed elements in the plan.
A CITY POOL.
The pool has been illustrated on the north bank of the Torrens. Hansen said the idea – the “least detailed” part of the plan – had come from public consultation in March on the Riverbank Masterplan.
“We weren’t even thinking of something like a city pool,” Hansen told InDaily.
“We tried to reflect that here, but not with great detail. It was really just to be able to have it as a concept.”
NEW WETLANDS in Bonython Park, which could be used to improve water quality in the Torrens.
TRAFFIC LIGHTS for King William Road.
At the moment there is only one pedestrian crossing between the CBD’s square mile and the River. The six-lane road is a major impediment to Renewal SA’s vision of an unbroken north-south path.
Hansen described the current situation as dangerous, and said the plan was looking at ways to add a new pedestrian crossing to King William Road.
WAR MEMORIAL WALK along Kintore Avenue.
This project, considered by Renewal SA to be a short-term priority, would include a range of streetscape upgrades to the area including wider footpaths between Rundle Mall and the river.
A public survey attached to the project sheds some light on Renewal SA’s priorities. Questions on the proposed pedestrian paths through the Riverbank are included, as are questions about a new entertainment plaza near the Festival Centre.
The pool is not mentioned.
One of the firm details in the plan is the finish date for the entire masterplan– South Australia’s bicentary year, 2036.
That police barracks really should go. It is a really ugly collection of buildings. That would open up the old Gaol to Port road more, and the old gaol would be great if properly developed as a museum in keeping with it's history. Other cities have their old gaols as museums, and are popular attractions if done well...electric chairs, gallows etc, people love that ghoulish stuff.Dog wrote:Would love to see the Thebarton police complex shifted as it's a blot on the drive into the city, perhaps just returned to parklands. I had thought that with the scaling back of the Keswick army site that may have been a good alternative for our boys in Blue, oops black.
Yes!claybro wrote:That police barracks really should go. It is a really ugly collection of buildings. That would open up the old Gaol to Port road more, and the old gaol would be great if properly developed as a museum in keeping with it's history. Other cities have their old gaols as museums, and are popular attractions if done well...electric chairs, gallows etc, people love that ghoulish stuff.Dog wrote:Would love to see the Thebarton police complex shifted as it's a blot on the drive into the city, perhaps just returned to parklands. I had thought that with the scaling back of the Keswick army site that may have been a good alternative for our boys in Blue, oops black.
"Synergy" Where'd you pick up foul language like that, young man?Wayno wrote:...Did not realise this is where the police horses are kept. Do they have many on site?
There's also some potential synergy between the police barracks and old gaol from a tourist perspective, but can't put my finger on it. Tours on horse back anyone?