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Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 8:58 pm
Sady they seem to be discovering InDaily too...Waewick wrote:holy crap.
I accdiently read the comments section of the Adelaidenow webiste
what a collection of humans that is.
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Sady they seem to be discovering InDaily too...Waewick wrote:holy crap.
I accdiently read the comments section of the Adelaidenow webiste
what a collection of humans that is.
I don't get the hate.Llessur2002 wrote:Sady they seem to be discovering InDaily too...Waewick wrote:holy crap.
I accdiently read the comments section of the Adelaidenow webiste
what a collection of humans that is.
Without wanting to offend anyone, I think it's a bit bloody rich for 'disability advocates' to be calling for the speed of bicycles to be limited to 10km/h on the footpath when the speed of many gophers and motorised wheelchairs is far beyond this.Disability advocates have expressed support for a Liberal Party bill, to be introduced today, that would set a 10km/h speed limit for cyclists on footpaths.
Easy grab for votes.Llessur2002 wrote:From InDaily:
Without wanting to offend anyone, I think it's a bit bloody rich for 'disability advocates' to be calling for the speed of bicycles to be limited to 10km/h on the footpath when the speed of many gophers and motorised wheelchairs is far beyond this.Disability advocates have expressed support for a Liberal Party bill, to be introduced today, that would set a 10km/h speed limit for cyclists on footpaths.
I enjoy a great aerial view of Rundle Mall from my office window and only yesterday I saw a motorised wheelchair absolutely pelting it along the mall - easily 20-25km/h, I would genuinely have been hard pushed to keep up with the lady if I was sprinting.
I'm not necessarily saying that's a problem, but I find it difficult to put up with the seemingly constant anti-bike rhetoric from many parties when there are other groups of footpath users who pose a similar level of theoretical 'danger' who don't even get a mention...
http://indaily.com.au/opinion/2016/06/0 ... ts-vision/SA's unhealthy obsession with Light's vision
Parts of Colonel Light's vision for Adelaide still make sense but other aspects of his legacy need to be dragged into the 21st century, writes architect Gerald Matthews.
"Light's Vision" on Montefiore Hill. Photo: Nat Rogers/InDaily
For my entire career I’ve listened to Adelaide debate aspects of Colonel Light’s vision. There are aspects of it that even today seem like genius and there are aspects that leave some of us scratching our heads.
I battle with the word “vision” – an emotive word. To me, it essentially implies that William Light was a founding father, enduring hardship, striking out for the promised land to make a better place for the brave people who followed him…
But is that the real story?
He was a government surveyor employed to divide up land so that it could be sold. European settlers with an expectation based on the soils and farming fertility of their homelands arrived to discover mangrove swamps, scarce water and scant top-soil. Was the man carving the land up for sale a hero or simply an opportunist, and were the new arrivals, in fact, cursing the government that sold them the land?
Part of Light’s job included creating an arrangement for a city that would make sense. And it did make sense, at least back when bullock trains required wide streets to turn around. It made sense before we sprawled for 75km of continuous suburbs from Gawler to Moana. It made sense before we started making and driving cars.
Parts of it still make sense. But those parts come with a few “ifs”. A city centre framed by parks is still an excellent idea. If we kept them green so they cooled the surrounding areas during our hot dry summers they would make even more sense. There has been significant international research into the cost-benefit of irrigating parklands in cities with hot climates. The idea is that the cost, water and energy used to keep the parklands green would be outweighed by the energy and cost benefits of the evaporative cooling effects for the CBD and city frame areas. And if we turned them in to gardens and kept them green we might also be inspired to use them more.
Torrens Lake (the wide part behind the weir) is a wise idea along the north edge of the CBD for a similar reason. It acts to cool the hot dry northerly winds we get in summer. If we could keep it clean enough to swim in or use without getting sick it would also be a recreational draw card for the city. Within living memory we weren’t just rowing on the river, we were also holding swimming races in it. I’d dearly like to see that happen again.
Our squares are an amazing part of our city’s fabric. If we can figure out how to use them for more than decoration we will be well on our way to building vibrancy within the square mile. Events like the Royal Croquet Club and Fork in the Road demonstrate just part of the potential for these spaces.
There are some aspects of our city, however, that may never make much sense to me. Take, for instance, the almost arbitrary location of the CBD, halfway between the hills and the coast. If the fabled canal had ever been constructed from Port Adelaide down Port Road to the CBD we may have discovered some sense in the location of our CBD, but as it stands that doesn’t seem a likely proposition. So we have to accept that there isn’t any particular reason for the CBD to be where it is.
Its arbitrary location does allow other areas such as Glenelg and Port Adelaide to maintain a point of difference, but without the density to support multiple competing centres they all suffer.
The city planning of Adelaide responds well to a northern aspect, but this also means that our wide streets soak up the scorching summer heat. Ancient cities built in hot climates often utilised narrow streets so that each building shades its neighbours. Since our summers are harsher than our winters our alternating wide streets don’t make a lot of sense. For a city with such clarity of movement we haven’t yet unlocked its potential to support greater numbers of people, which with just a little foresight would be easy to do.
Once trams connected the city to Henley Beach, Semaphore and Glenelg. Glenelg kept its tramline – the others didn’t. The current differences between these destinations is proof of the importance of better public transport. Glenelg thrived but, by comparison, Henley Beach and Semaphore regressed for several decades.
There was a time when trams went everywhere in our city. And within 30 years we’re hoping to claw back perhaps 60 per cent of what we had in the 1950s. We should be aiming higher and acting faster.
A vision or strategy that was created hundreds of years ago needs to be updated as the world moves forward, otherwise Adelaide will continue to be dragged kicking and screaming through the 21st century.
Gerald Matthews is managing director of Matthews Architects.
Eh? There's a UPark directly above it, another one 50 metres or so away from it on the other side of the road, as well as a Wilson car park directly opposite it (not to mention Pitt Street multi-storey, the entrance to which is shown in your photo). How much closer do you want to get?ghs wrote:I've never experienced anything more frustrating then spending 20 minutes circling around in my car after a hard day at work trying to find a park
near Coles.
Agree that the current planters aren't the most spectacular but the traders on Pitt Street were very much behind this initiative (there's more info on the ACC thread or see http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-27/p ... bd/6886702) and hopefully there is more to come in the near future...ghs wrote:Adelaide City council hasn't helped the situation by replacing car parks in Pitt street with pathetic planter boxes as seen in the photo below. It's an absolute disgrace.
Well, that depends... The city also have the two IGA grocery stores on Hutt Street. That being said if you're referring to large 'supermarkets', I wouldn't get too excited, the new Woolies could go either way... It could be a small Woolies like they've been rolling out across Melbourne's CBD (similar size to the IGA's on Hutt Street) or if you're lucky it will be a proper 'supermarket' (I'd imagine) similar to the one at the northern end of Chapel Street in Melbourne (here's hoping).ghs wrote:I am looking forward to the new supermarket. The only supermarket outside of Rundle Mall in the Adelaide CBD is the Coles on Grote street and
I am sick to death of trying to find a car park nearby.
I've never experienced anything more frustrating then spending 20 minutes circling around in my car after a hard day at work trying to find a park
near Coles. Adelaide City council hasn't helped the situation by replacing car parks in Pitt street with pathetic planter boxes as seen in the photo below. It's an absolute disgrace.