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Wayno wrote: Much of the zeal for new development shown by 20-30yo people can be put down to two main reasons:

• 1) a comparative lack of development compared to just about all other australian states (too many years of plans, rejection, inaction), and
  2) the pure desire to wrestle control away from those who have held Adelaide back in so many respects.

Is there an overreaction due to 1) & 2) above? probably a bit, but not excessive by any means, and definitely not putting Adelaide's distinct character at risk. This is just an exercise in generational calibration.

Of course. And it's a calibration that goes on and on and on through the ages.
I personally have never had a strong desire to see Adelaide follow the lead of other cities, but then, I prefer my large open spaces, green grass, gumtrees and sparse population. And I certainly have fewer problems with radicals like Murray Bookchin and some of the ideas of Deep Ecology than a lot of people have. I come from a camp of anti centralisation, rather than a camp of anti development..although the effect can be much the same.
Having been to quite a number of dense cities in different countries, I am never impressed by them and frankly, have never seen a single city that compares to Adelaide. With a denser population comes a great price. As the urban footprint grows so does environmental impact and for those of us who are sensitive to it, the social impact of having to live in a much denser living space with many thousands of other people.
I would also argue that part of Adelaide's distinct character is the green space, comparatively sparse population, lower density housing and possibly even a certain unwillingness to develop along the lines of bigger cities. Disadvantages do come with that and I would guess that if we had an internet discussion forum like this functioning in 1985, you would have heard many of the same ideas from the 20-30 years olds at the time.
Having said all of that, I'm all for developmental evolution, so long as we carefully design infrastructure and open up the development process transparently instead of cheap deals to private companies behind closed doors. Part of my cynicism (and not just mine) comes from seeing successive weak and feeble selfish Governments build too many monuments to their own power. But, that's as human as growing old.

I also think the lack of change has driven people away from this state. But now that infrastructure is finally improving, and general life is getting better, people will (hopefully) see the changes and stay here for the long run.

Norman wrote:I also think the lack of change has driven people away from this state. But now that infrastructure is finally improving, and general life is getting better, people will (hopefully) see the changes and stay here for the long run.

In what ways is 'general life' getting better? What specific infrastructure is resulting in this do you think?

No offence Neuropolis you're entitled to your opinons but i have a keen and vested interest in Mawson Lakes and i want to hear news of its growth and development so could we stick to the topic.

ynotsfables wrote:No offence Neuropolis you're entitled to your opinons but i have a keen and vested interest in Mawson Lakes and i want to hear news of its growth and development so could we stick to the topic.

Here Here, was just going to say the same thing.

Neuropolis, if this debate is so important to you feel free to start a new thread on it.

Cheers

bm7500 wrote:

ynotsfables wrote:No offence Neuropolis you're entitled to your opinons but i have a keen and vested interest in Mawson Lakes and i want to hear news of its growth and development so could we stick to the topic.

Here Here, was just going to say the same thing.

Neuropolis, if this debate is so important to you feel free to start a new thread on it.

Cheers

so because YOU have a vested interest, presumably some property asset, you dont want to hear the negatives on mawson lakes? to be honest, it doesnt strike me as any more than an overhyped estate.

raulduke wrote:

bm7500 wrote:

ynotsfables wrote:No offence Neuropolis you're entitled to your opinons but i have a keen and vested interest in Mawson Lakes and i want to hear news of its growth and development so could we stick to the topic.

Here Here, was just going to say the same thing.

Neuropolis, if this debate is so important to you feel free to start a new thread on it.

Cheers

so because YOU have a vested interest, presumably some property asset, you dont want to hear the negatives on mawson lakes? to be honest, it doesnt strike me as any more than an overhyped estate.

So what.

ynotsfables wrote:No offence Neuropolis you're entitled to your opinons but i have a keen and vested interest in Mawson Lakes and i want to hear news of its growth and development so could we stick to the topic.

This is a discussion forum and I would assume, as on most other discussion boards, that I can have any opinion that I like. You don't have to agree with it and I'm certainly not abusing anyone.
I'm not impressed by Mawson Lakes either, but you can be as excited as you like about it. That's fair enough.

Neuropolis wrote:

ynotsfables wrote:No offence Neuropolis you're entitled to your opinons but i have a keen and vested interest in Mawson Lakes and i want to hear news of its growth and development so could we stick to the topic.

This is a discussion forum and I would assume, as on most other discussion boards, that I can have any opinion that I like. You don't have to agree with it and I'm certainly not abusing anyone.
I'm not impressed by Mawson Lakes either, but you can be as excited as you like about it. That's fair enough.

hi Neuropolis, one of the benefits of S-A is that it is a self-regulating website. Ynotsfables is correct and i must slap myself on the wrist for being part of the problem here. This topic is dedicated to discussion specific to Mawson Lakes, and our conversation has become quite philosophical and goes well beyond the focus here. Let's reconvene over in the Pub. Feel free to start a new topic over there at your leisure. Look forward to chatting more with you...

Wayno wrote:

Neuropolis wrote:

ynotsfables wrote:No offence Neuropolis you're entitled to your opinons but i have a keen and vested interest in Mawson Lakes and i want to hear news of its growth and development so could we stick to the topic.

This is a discussion forum and I would assume, as on most other discussion boards, that I can have any opinion that I like. You don't have to agree with it and I'm certainly not abusing anyone.
I'm not impressed by Mawson Lakes either, but you can be as excited as you like about it. That's fair enough.

hi Neuropolis, one of the benefits of S-A is that it is a self-regulating website. Ynotsfables is correct and i must slap myself on the wrist for being part of the problem here. This topic is dedicated to discussion specific to Mawson Lakes, and our conversation has become quite philosophical and goes well beyond the focus here. Let's reconvene over in the Pub. Feel free to start a new topic over there at your leisure. Look forward to chatting more with you...

No worries

raulduke wrote:

bm7500 wrote:

ynotsfables wrote:No offence Neuropolis you're entitled to your opinons but i have a keen and vested interest in Mawson Lakes and i want to hear news of its growth and development so could we stick to the topic.

Here Here, was just going to say the same thing.

Neuropolis, if this debate is so important to you feel free to start a new thread on it.

Cheers

so because YOU have a vested interest, presumably some property asset, you dont want to hear the negatives on mawson lakes? to be honest, it doesnt strike me as any more than an overhyped estate.

My response to Neuropolis has fuck all to do with me having a vested interest in Mawson Lakes! This thread is about Mawson Lakes and the contents of the posts were heading off course. My post was attempt to keep the discussion on Mawson Lakes, regardless if the commetry is good bad or otherwise.

yawn

My my, Mawson Lakes has shot up in the last year.

Wow what an interesting little city thats being built this is the MFP mark 2 for sure.

It is quite amazing how much med+ density is getting done. Im impressed. Cant wait until its all finished, to see how much of a thriving little pedestrian community it will be.

What a contrast to the typical cul-de-sac, car only based subdivisions that have happened in the last 25 years