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Re: CBD Development: Planning / City Height Limits Overhaul

#226 Post by Dvious » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:42 pm

Just a quick one, ive been reading all day the changes being made.

Are there now any zones in the city which allow OVER 30 storey's, or is it still capped at 30 across the entire CBD.

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#227 Post by AdelaideAlive » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:03 am

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6311364109




INVESTORS may target mid-rise apartments after the State Government announced CBD planning changes, including buildings above 30 storeys.

Planning Minister John Rau yesterday announced details of the long-awaited planning reform, which the Government claims will unlock hundreds of million of dollars in investment.

The population target for the city has been increased from 47,000 people to 55,000 by 2040 and a proposed, but unfunded, tram loop has been included in future plans.

Property Council of Australia SA executive director Nathan Paine yesterday told The Advertiser the new rules were unlikely to spark a growth of skyscrapers in the CBD, but demand was high for quality apartments.

"The first move will be on multi-level residential or apartment blocks in the southeastern and southwestern parts of the city like Sturt St and Pulteney St," he said. "I think medium-rise is probably going to be the predominant style of development."


Mr Paine said many developers were attempting to maximise rentable floorspace with buildings like Tower 8, and Westpac House was unlikely to have a rival as Adelaide's tallest building in the short-term future.

Mr Rau said the changes would promote a safer, more vibrant and populated CBD.

Opposition planning spokesman David Ridgway said the Government needed to cut taxes including land and stamp duties if it were serious about removing impediments to city living.

Building heights are limited by factors including Adelaide Airport emergency routes and council rules.

Buildings of 30 storeys or more will now be allowed in King William, Morphett, Pulteney, Grote, Wakefield, Currie and Franklin streets with approval from Adelaide Airport.

They are now limited to as little as 15 storeys.

Hindley and Gouger streets will be allowed to go up to 15 storeys and 12 storeys are permitted on Rundle St.

The terraces will be allowed buildings up to 15 storeys and the squares and parkland-fronting streets will be targeted for development that creates common space or includes retail and commercial outlets.

Sites larger than 1500sq m will have no mandated height restrictions in a bid to encourage development.

However, they will be required to win approval from a dedicated design panel assessing their impact on nearby structures.

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Re: CBD Development: Planning / City Height Limits Overhaul

#228 Post by AdelaideAlive » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:07 am

Dvious wrote:Just a quick one, ive been reading all day the changes being made.

Are there now any zones in the city which allow OVER 30 storey's, or is it still capped at 30 across the entire CBD.
Buildings of 30 storeys or more will now be allowed in King William, Morphett, Pulteney, Grote, Wakefield, Currie and Franklin streets with approval from Adelaide Airport.

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#229 Post by Howie » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:15 am

Okay, people aren't going back through previous pages of this thread, so i've edited the original post on page 1 with the pertinent information.

Yes, height will be up for negotiation with CASA, there will be no height restrictions for particular sites.

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#230 Post by ml69 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:38 am

All we need now is an announcement on stamp duty exemption for multi storey apartments and the CBD will have all the necessary ingredients for explosive growth!

This is really important the building height changes will only benefit the supply side for residential apartments, we need something to fire up demand because that's still pretty weak. Stamp duty exemption just might be enough to get demand ticking ....

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#231 Post by UrbanSG » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:28 am

The Capital City DPA will be available via this site today (not uploaded just yet). Public Notice in today's paper:

www.sa.gov.au/planning/ministerialdpas

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#232 Post by phenom » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:26 am

Amazing stuff - really a lot better than I would have expected and much, much sooner than I dared hope.

Regardless of whether this produces tall towers (> than Westpac) or not, it's a much needed boost to the viability of all sorts of buildings that will in future make our city stand out even more.

I've gotta say, there's something really, really nice about effectively unlimited heights (yes, yes, notwithstanding CASA etc). Doesn't mean we're going get Eureka mk2 but will remove the craziness that led to the Light Square fiasco (the 13 storey building that couldn't... and is now 8 levels). Unlimited rolls off the tongue so nicely :D

I'm continually amazed by the impact that even relatively short buildings have had in very flat parts of the city so I look forward to the future. I can't help but imagine several of the apartment buildings now under construction may have been able to viably add on another 5 to 10 levels had this been in place a while back but what's done is done.

Of course the full impact of these changes will only unfold over decades but at least now we've got an excellent basis to move forward in attracting investment and interest in the first place and to shed our closed for business reputation from developers burned by council over-regulation.

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#233 Post by duke » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:08 pm

phenom wrote: I'm continually amazed by the impact that even relatively short buildings have had in very flat parts of the city so I look forward to the future. I can't help but imagine several of the apartment buildings now under construction may have been able to viably add on another 5 to 10 levels had this been in place a while back but what's done is done.
I wonder how many will be scrambling to see if they can now go taller, even if its under construction.

I also wonder how many buildings will end up with extensions.
I remember seeing in Sydney I think it was, some building owner was selling their roof space. Apparently they had approval for 5 or so levels to be added to the top of their existing old building.
If this is possible here now it may breath life back into some of our unused heritage buildings.

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#234 Post by rhino » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:29 pm

duke wrote: it may breath life back into some of our unused heritage buildings.
I would love to see more of our heritage buildings used as podiums for skyscrapers - I think it's a great look, so long as it's a sympathetic construction.
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#235 Post by UrbanSG » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:41 pm

The Capital City DPA is now available via this site and it's effective as of today:

www.sa.gov.au/planning/ministerialdpas

It's a big document with a lot of reading. Developers paradise in the CBD from today.

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#236 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:48 pm

What is / when is the second 'big annoucement' happening today?
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Re: CBD Development: Planning / City Height Limits Overhaul

#237 Post by Ben » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:21 pm

A couple of documents that make it clearer. unfortunatly at this point in time due to airport restraints it will be difficult to get a 200m+ building.

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Re: CBD Development: Planning / City Height Limits Overhaul

#238 Post by Just build it » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:52 pm

Didn't the airport conditionally approve that 200m skyneedle/ob tower thingy proposed by an Asian investment group sometime in the early 90s? I think the project collapsed when the Asian financial crash happened (very hazy memory of details).

Would be nice if the Flinders St proposal decided to stick another 20-30 metres on top. They can afford it. :wink:

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#239 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:57 pm

Can someone please explain to me what the 'Airport Sheilding Heights' map is supposed to mean?
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Re: CBD Development: Planning / City Height Limits Overhaul

#240 Post by mgb » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:30 pm

Not sure if I have read it correctly, but from a quick look at the proposed plan it looks like there are some interesting changes in the proposed plan regarding removing the car parking requirements for residential.

Additionally it appears to be the banning of both high-rise car parking stations and the change of use of existing buildings to carparks (given the number of old sheds in the core being used this way that can't be a bad thing.)

This all seems like a good step forward, but I really hope the gov. can find the funds for the tram soon.


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