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#2281 Post by mutt » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:41 pm

mattblack wrote:Some of these arguments are the most pathetic I have heard on this forum. Reminds me of the members meetings I attended during the consultation phase of the new development. Rain coming in sideways will make people wet, well Duh ... this cannot be averted in any open stadium, The AO will have more coverage for spectators in the stands than any other in the country. People will be looking into the sun, well Duh ... this cannot be averted in any open stadium and happens at AAMI now anyway. Get a members tick and look the other way. Stadium will look like a toilet bowl from the top .... well last time I went to any sporting event I did not check out a satellite image of the stadium before deciding if I was going to go or not, please stay away if you do this, you won’t be missed. The stadium will only hold 47,000 + standing, when was the last time that AAMI was sold out? When was the last time that a cricket match got over 40,000 people? I’d rather be a a full stadium than a half empty one, look at the atmosphere of Ethiad compared to MCG when you get 45,000 people to a match. The stadium will be big enough for now, especially because it can be extended IF we need. The ground is the 'wrong' shape for football (soccer) ..... Just plain wrong, it will be FIFA compliant and be able to host A league, NRL and ARU matches.

Can we please reserve this forum for construction and keep this inane/obsolete/boring discussion to the 'Discussion' forum. :cheers:
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AAMI sold out 2 weeks ago when Collingwood visited
the whole point of moving to the city was to increase crowds. if crowds were expected to be the same as at west lakes then the move and redevelopment would never had happened

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#2282 Post by rhino » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:45 pm

Good post mattblack :applause:

However, I do think we will see more sellout games now that Adelaide is doing well, as indicated at the Collingwood game a few weeks ago.
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#2283 Post by AdelaideAlive » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:41 pm

i know this is not to do with construction of the oval but im puting it in anyway,problay should be in the pub section :lol:




http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6387558310



Adelaide Oval in 24/7 booze bid





ADELAIDE Oval will be allowed to serve alcohol 24 hours a day if an application for a new liquor licence is granted.

The oval’s Stadium Management Authority (SMA) has applied to Consumer and Business Services Commissioner Anne Gale for a Special Circumstances Licence.

As part of the licence, the oval’s Southern Plaza would be able to serve alcohol round-the-clock even on non-event days.

The City Council has raised concerns about the plan, with one councillor likening it to a “nightclub”.

Under the oval’s existing liquor licence, held by the SACA, alcohol can only be served until 8pm or two hours before and after a sporting event, whichever finishes later.

SMA chief executive Andrew Daniels said a 24 hour licence would allow “flexibility” for future events.

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Oval liquor licenceDo you support an around-the-clock liquor licence for Adelaide Oval? Yes No Extended trading's a good idea - but not 24/7 Vote now End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar.
He said Adelaide Oval would not be used as a pub.

“There will definitely be no pokies at Adelaide Oval,” he said.

“We have no nightclub planned.”

Mr Daniels said the SMA wanted the option to screen live sporting events, such as the Soccer World Cup, in the new Southern Plaza, between Adelaide Oval and the River Torrens.

The City Council discussed the application at a meeting this week.

It deferred making a recommendation until next week, when it will consider a fresh report on the issue.

Cr Mark Hamilton told the meeting he was concerned the SMA wanted an “unlimited licence” for the oval precinct.

“We don’t want a 24/7 nightclub on this site,” he said.

The council’s existing policy on liquor licensing requires a break in trading between 3am-7am.

This is in-line with SA Police’s city-wide recommendations.

Read the full story on the City Messenger website

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#2284 Post by [Shuz] » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:30 pm

Oooh, goody. Now the homeless and young drunks who live under the bridges at night will have even more convinience to get alcohol.

No, seriously.
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#2285 Post by mattblack » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:35 pm

mutt wrote:
mattblack wrote:Some of these arguments are the most pathetic I have heard on this forum. Reminds me of the members meetings I attended during the consultation phase of the new development. Rain coming in sideways will make people wet, well Duh ... this cannot be averted in any open stadium, The AO will have more coverage for spectators in the stands than any other in the country. People will be looking into the sun, well Duh ... this cannot be averted in any open stadium and happens at AAMI now anyway. Get a members tick and look the other way. Stadium will look like a toilet bowl from the top .... well last time I went to any sporting event I did not check out a satellite image of the stadium before deciding if I was going to go or not, please stay away if you do this, you won’t be missed. The stadium will only hold 47,000 + standing, when was the last time that AAMI was sold out? When was the last time that a cricket match got over 40,000 people? I’d rather be a a full stadium than a half empty one, look at the atmosphere of Ethiad compared to MCG when you get 45,000 people to a match. The stadium will be big enough for now, especially because it can be extended IF we need. The ground is the 'wrong' shape for football (soccer) ..... Just plain wrong, it will be FIFA compliant and be able to host A league, NRL and ARU matches.

Can we please reserve this forum for construction and keep this inane/obsolete/boring discussion to the 'Discussion' forum. :cheers:
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AAMI sold out 2 weeks ago when Collingwood visited
the whole point of moving to the city was to increase crowds. if crowds were expected to be the same as at west lakes then the move and redevelopment would never had happened
Im a Port supporter so sell outs are kinda foriegn to me, you must admit though that the crows in recent years havent exactally had them busting down the doors to get in. The point of increasing crowds should be seen in the context of the whole season for both clubs, not a few isolated games here or there. Also you should look at just bums on seats but the greater economic effect that it will have on the CBD as to reasons to move.

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#2286 Post by mutt » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:43 pm

mattblack wrote:
mutt wrote:
mattblack wrote:Some of these arguments are the most pathetic I have heard on this forum. Reminds me of the members meetings I attended during the consultation phase of the new development. Rain coming in sideways will make people wet, well Duh ... this cannot be averted in any open stadium, The AO will have more coverage for spectators in the stands than any other in the country. People will be looking into the sun, well Duh ... this cannot be averted in any open stadium and happens at AAMI now anyway. Get a members tick and look the other way. Stadium will look like a toilet bowl from the top .... well last time I went to any sporting event I did not check out a satellite image of the stadium before deciding if I was going to go or not, please stay away if you do this, you won’t be missed. The stadium will only hold 47,000 + standing, when was the last time that AAMI was sold out? When was the last time that a cricket match got over 40,000 people? I’d rather be a a full stadium than a half empty one, look at the atmosphere of Ethiad compared to MCG when you get 45,000 people to a match. The stadium will be big enough for now, especially because it can be extended IF we need. The ground is the 'wrong' shape for football (soccer) ..... Just plain wrong, it will be FIFA compliant and be able to host A league, NRL and ARU matches.

Can we please reserve this forum for construction and keep this inane/obsolete/boring discussion to the 'Discussion' forum. :cheers:
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AAMI sold out 2 weeks ago when Collingwood visited
the whole point of moving to the city was to increase crowds. if crowds were expected to be the same as at west lakes then the move and redevelopment would never had happened
Im a Port supporter so sell outs are kinda foriegn to me, you must admit though that the crows in recent years havent exactally had them busting down the doors to get in. The point of increasing crowds should be seen in the context of the whole season for both clubs, not a few isolated games here or there. Also you should look at just bums on seats but the greater economic effect that it will have on the CBD as to reasons to move.
people in general have gotten lazy and tired of travelling to football park, being rained on etc. adelaide oval is much closer to the population centre of the metro area, west lakes is nowhere near it.
the quality of performances dished up by both Power and Crows in the past 8 years or so would have a lot to do with dwindling crowds

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#2287 Post by mattblack » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:01 pm

Kasey771 wrote:I intend to swing past AO this Friday arvo and whip out the camera to see if there is a crane on site yet.
No cranes yet. If you want to take some photos the bits of the light towers are lying on the ground in the North East corner near the cathedral. Pretty impressive, their massive. :) Theres also some friggin huge earth mounds near to the old Norther gates.

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#2288 Post by Pikey » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:49 pm

There are no cranes, from what I have seen there is one Favco crane base on site, and I am sure the southern stand will get two, as will the eastern stand.
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#2289 Post by crawf » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:56 pm

That 24/7 alcohol proposal sounds fine. Makes sense when many international matches can be played at 2am or 4am here in the morning

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#2290 Post by rev » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:44 am

Well if they intend to use the southern side where the car park used to be, which will feature two large screens on the exterior of the southern stand(according to renders), as a gathering place to watch sporting events like the World Cup when Australia plays, then it shouldn't be a problem.

I don't see what the council is getting worked up about. Adelaide Oval turning into a night club? The most retarded thing I've heard in a while
Seriously it's embarrassing :oops:

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#2291 Post by Kasey771 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:25 am

rev wrote:Well if they intend to use the southern side where the car park used to be, which will feature two large screens on the exterior of the southern stand(according to renders), as a gathering place to watch sporting events like the World Cup when Australia plays, then it shouldn't be a problem.

I don't see what the council is getting worked up about. Adelaide Oval turning into a night club? The most retarded thing I've heard in a while
Seriously it's embarrassing
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Exactly, this isn’t Qatar. If the Socceroos are playing Overseas and AO wants to show the game live and generate a bit of a live site mentality, what’s wrong with being able to serve a few beers? You can really see the wowserism coming through in that article can’t you? Can see some self important ACC councillor pledging to just make the northern riverbank precinct a dry-zone *embarassed*
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#2292 Post by Waewick » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:00 pm

Kasey771 wrote:
rev wrote:Well if they intend to use the southern side where the car park used to be, which will feature two large screens on the exterior of the southern stand(according to renders), as a gathering place to watch sporting events like the World Cup when Australia plays, then it shouldn't be a problem.

I don't see what the council is getting worked up about. Adelaide Oval turning into a night club? The most retarded thing I've heard in a while
Seriously it's embarrassing
:oops:
Exactly, this isn’t Qatar. If the Socceroos are playing Overseas and AO wants to show the game live and generate a bit of a live site mentality, what’s wrong with being able to serve a few beers? You can really see the wowserism coming through in that article can’t you? Can see some self important ACC councillor pledging to just make the northern riverbank precinct a dry-zone *embarassed*

I've got no problem with the grassed sections being a dry zone to ermm...keep policy consistent.

but I can't see an issue with the SMA request.

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#2293 Post by Wayno » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:09 pm

i'm ok as long as the cost of security, etc is born by the SMA and not the taxpayer.

I'm fairly sure the SMA is just 'grandstanding'. Normal pub hours plus some sort of special allowance for late-evening sporting events probably makes more sense.

I also presume SACA members must vote on it with 75% needing to agree?
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#2294 Post by Matt » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:59 am

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#2295 Post by Alyx » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:42 am

AdelaideNow wrote:ADELAIDE City Council has voted to protect an avenue of historic trees and footpath planned for removal in the Adelaide Oval redevelopment.

The council followed the advice of the Adelaide Parklands Authority and voted not to remove the row of white cedars near a proposed licensed area.

Councillor Mark Hamilton said the trees were the only avenue of white cedars in Adelaide and had historical significance.

Councillor Sandy Wilkinson said the council had not received sufficient information on why the trees needed to be removed and how the area they occupy would be used.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6394945337

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