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Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:36 pm
by Will409
The best part of all this development is that all of the medium density stuff is close (within very easy walking distance of) Mawson Lakes interchange with a couple of bus routes running through there too.
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:40 pm
by Somebody
Pity that current PT is so hopeless.
Will be good once the Gawler Central Line has been redeveloped.
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:28 pm
by Norman
Somebody wrote:Pity that current PT is so hopeless.
Will be good once the Gawler Central Line has been redeveloped.
Why is it hopeless? There's a train every 15 minutes, a bus every 15 minutes, only 15-20 mins to the city by train, buses going North, South and East...
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:55 pm
by Omicron
Is it me, or does every apartment building in Mawson Lakes look like a Greenhill Road low-rise commercial building?
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:16 pm
by muzzamo
This sort of stuff (medium density near train stations) is everywhere in sydney... The city feels like a very crowded place from looking out of a train window because that is where you are going to see 6-20 stories even 20km out from the city.
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:09 pm
by Prince George
Are many of these buildings mixed use? I can't quite make it out from the photos, a couple look like they definitely aren't but some seem like they could be. That would certainly boost its pedestrian friendly creds - it amazes me how short a trip people(*) will make in a car, you almost have to have the shopping at the foot of the building if you want to encourage walking.
Have they got any plan for that open area just north of the town centre? Is it still an overflow carpark? I hope they don't follow the model of the first stage town centre and turn it into a parking lot with attached retail. I remember walking past it shortly after it opened and a friend pointed it out as a missed opportunity - not submerging the parking and gaining a real town centre. There was something rather ironic about it: the centre of our town's centre is --- a statue? No. A fountain? No, it's a carpark.
PG
(*) and, yes, I'll admit that sometimes I'm one of those people
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:28 am
by Somebody
Norman wrote:Why is it hopeless? There's a train every 15 minutes,
Sorry Harvey, forgot about the upgrade to the train frequencies.
15min on weekdays is the bare minimum that it should be - but is OK for the current TA network.
30min on weekends and 60 at night is a fucking disgrace
Norman wrote:a bus every 15 minutes,
To where?
Norman wrote:buses going North, South and East...
I bet they don't all run every 10-15mins minimum 7 days a week.
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:47 am
by Xaragmata
Prince George wrote:Are many of these buildings mixed use? I can't quite make it out from the photos, a couple look like they definitely aren't but some seem like they could be.
Many of the buildings in Goodall & Hurtle Parades, and Escada in Main street are mixed use - ground floor shops
& offices.
Further, the land for sale in Mawson Central & M C West (between Interchange & Salisbury Hwy) appears to be
[mandatory] mixed use commercial ground floor, minimum of 3 levels ...
http://www.mawsonlakes.com.au/llweb/maw ... lling_land
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:25 am
by Norman
Somebody wrote:Norman wrote:Why is it hopeless? There's a train every 15 minutes,
Sorry Harvey, forgot about the upgrade to the train frequencies.
15min on weekdays is the bare minimum that it should be - but is OK for the current TA network.
30min on weekends and 60 at night is a fucking disgrace
Weekends is fine, maybe upgrade it to 20 mins tops, more it doesn't need. And the night frequencies should be fixed ASAP to 30 mins, with an extra train at 1 and/or 2am on Friday and Saturday nights.
Somebody wrote:Norman wrote:a bus every 15 minutes,
To where?
City via Mawson Lakes and Main North Road
http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/routes/ ... utemap.pdf
Somebody wrote:Norman wrote:buses going North, South and East...
I bet they don't all run every 10-15mins minimum 7 days a week.
No, the 565 is every 30 mins to TTP, the 411 every 15 mins or so to Parafield Gardens and Salisbury, the T501 every 30 mins to City via O-Bahn. Frequencies are lower on weekends but the current service is sufficient.
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:01 am
by AtD
Please don't feed the trolls.
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:32 am
by Norman
AtD wrote:Please don't feed the trolls.
It's a bit like that, isn't it?
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:58 pm
by Somebody
Norman wrote:Weekends is fine,
As a welfare service, yes.
Norman wrote:maybe upgrade it to 20 mins tops,
Ahh, a better welfare service Harvey.
Norman wrote:more it doesn't need.
Should be 10-15 after the line is upgraded.
Norman wrote:And the night frequencies should be fixed ASAP to 30 mins
Do that now - but make it 15 after electrification.
Pity about the charity frequency on weekends.
Norman wrote:No, the 565 is every 30 mins to TTP,
Useless.
Norman wrote:the 411 every 15 mins or so to Parafield Gardens and Salisbury
Reasonable.
Norman wrote:but the current service is sufficient.
Wong.
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:34 pm
by Düsseldorfer
Norman wrote:but the current service is sufficient.
Somebody wrote:Wong.
hmm wong??
but anyway i have to agree with Norman, i use the public transport in and out of Mawson Lakes at many times during the week, both peak and off peak and on the weekends and i have to say it is definitely sufficient, the only improvement would be an extra 1-2 railcars on the trains..
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:45 pm
by Somebody
Düsseldorfer wrote:but anyway i have to agree with Norman, i use the public transport in and out of Mawson Lakes at many times during the week, both peak and off peak and on the weekends and i have to say it is definitely sufficient, the only improvement would be an extra 1-2 railcars on the trains..
Let me guess, you're a captive passenger?
Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:36 pm
by King_Kong
A little insider info for you all
4 major developments are in the works for Mawson Lakes
submitted to council.
1. $25mil new Hotal on corner Elder Smith Drive and Salisbury Hwy- called the Cascades Hotel
2. $50mil new Private Hospital and retail centre on the corner of Elder Smith and Main Street (Capital Street)
3. $9mil new serviced apartments to assist in servicing current Mawson Lakes Hotel
In neg.
4. New Cinema complex to be located on Shoalhaven side of Elder Smith Drive, under the bridge