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AG wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:26 am

SBD wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:33 pm

1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:40 pm

If Adelaide gets an underground CBD railway, the plan for the tunnel entrance is that it will be in the gap between the university buildings to the north of the City West tram stop. It will be easiest if the stations are above ground because underground stations are incredibly expensive. Melbourne Metro's stations will cost $3.1 billion out of the $4.7 billion project (https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 56dva.html).

So it will be costly to build an underground Adelaide Railway Station. Moving ARS to the RAH just before the tunnel will be the lowest cost solution (and therefore more likely to be built at all). Then the other CBD stations can be built from excavations in the squares.

Adelaide Railway Station is practically an underground station already! There's a substantial staircase down from North Terrace to platform level, and most of the platforms are now underneath the Convention Centre, Exhibition Centre and Riverside Centre.

The problem with the current Adelaide Railway Station is that it can't be readily converted into a through running station. The current constraints of the existing station layout and surrounding properties mean that the current platforms can't be changed from a terminal layout. The new Festival Plaza basement car park and tower are the nail in the coffin to any future conversion of the existing platforms.

The creation of a new through running link at Adelaide Railway Station will need to come from bored underground tunnels and new platforms below North Terrace, with pedestrian connections to the existing station. Those new underground platforms can free up capacity at the existing terminal platforms for new services, potentially regional and long distance if some of the other access, track gauge and long term planning issues can be addressed.

Spotto wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:50 pm

One thing that's glaringly absent from the nWCH proposal is public transport. The concepts released last year already have a conveniently-located overpass above the wide, straight rail corridor next to the nWCH, why not take advantage of it?

Anybody on the Belair, Seaford and Flinders lines coming to use the nWCH or RAH have to go all the way into Adelaide Station and transfer to the tram to double back. A station will cut the need to transfer services and will land southern train passengers right on the doorstep of the nWCH and the rest of the BioMed precinct, zero transfers needed.

Yes, the station would be barely 1km away from Adelaide Station, but it would make accessing the hospitals significantly more convenient and by happenstance, provide a direct rail connection between Flinders hospitals and the BioMed precinct. It would also encourage more southern commuters to use their nearest train station to get to the hospitals instead of driving all the way into the city.

Remember the age-old rule of public transport: if you make it easy and convenient to use, then people will use it.

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1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:59 pm

People coming from Outer Harbor and Grange can change at Bowden for the Entertainment Centre tram stop. It's convenient for the RAH too, it should be promoted as an interchange.

Nort wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:01 am

1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:59 pm

People coming from Outer Harbor and Grange can change at Bowden for the Entertainment Centre tram stop. It's convenient for the RAH too, it should be promoted as an interchange.

Doesn't seem worth the effort. Five minute walk between Bowden train station and the tram stop versus ten minutes from the train to the hospital.

ndru_01 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:42 pm

Government should be getting close to finalizing their revised plan.

Anyone want to guess the latest cost estimate?

Jaymz wrote:

ndru_01 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 09, 2022 11:42 pm

Government should be getting close to finalizing their revised plan.

Anyone want to guess the latest cost estimate?

Yep, a bazillion dollars

Nathan wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:11 am

I can't see any parklands being politically suitable outside of the now canned location.

Maybe Thebarton? Former Coke or West End sites might be an option.