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Malcolm M wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:19 pm

The developer's plans for a small-format supermarket don't appear to account for an increase in the number of CBD apartment dwellers, such as those in their own development. The "model" to follow should be the QV development in Melbourne's CBD, where there is a basement level Safeway and Big W, ground floor food court and specialty shops. During the COVID lockdowns in Melbourne and in the opening-up period, QV and the surrounding area became the busiest retail area of the CBD, with vacancies increasing in other parts of the CBD. The reason the QV Centre and its surrounds was so robust is because it serves the resident population.

Malcolm M wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:19 pm

Last week I used the Coles that would be closed for 4 years to make way for this development. I was staying in a nearby apartment. No trolleys were provided, presumably because it becomes too crowded at times, and only baskets were available. Most of the trade appeared to be walk-ins from nearby apartments, and the store was well used. The only other Coles or Woolworths supermarkets in the CBD are in or near Rundle Mall, and there is nothing else to serve the remainder of the CBD. It would be a pity if CBD apartment residents had to acquire cars for their supermarket needs over the 4 years of development. I hope an alternative temporary supermarket location can be found in the interim.

The developer's plans for a small-format supermarket don't appear to account for an increase in the number of CBD apartment dwellers, such as those in their own development. The "model" to follow should be the QV development in Melbourne's CBD, where there is a basement level Safeway and Big W, ground floor food court and specialty shops. During the COVID lockdowns in Melbourne and in the opening-up period, QV and the surrounding area became the busiest retail area of the CBD, with vacancies increasing in other parts of the CBD. The reason the QV Centre and its surrounds was so robust is because it serves the resident population.

A QV-lite development on the Central Market Arcade site would maximise walk-up and tram access, which the current plans appear to do, and to form the "go to" shopping centre for CBD residents.

whatstheirnamesmom wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:18 pm

Most of my friends and neighbours in the city don't drive to do grocery shopping. Most, including me, are taking little 'nanna trolleys' to wherever in the CBD is convenient. Many will continue shopping at the Central Markets for produce and venturing to the mall for everything else.

There are still IGAs on both Hutt and Gilbert Sts (though a bit smaller and pricier than Coles or Woolies). Will be a slight inconvenience without the Central Market Coles, though. But I don't think it will be enough to force many people to buy a car.

Algernon, you'll likely find that CBD apartment living will require lots more walking regardless. Walking/tramming/biking to the mall's full-format supermarkets instead won't be too much of a hassle.

Algernon wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:20 pm

I'm considering an apartment purchase in this area and I agree that if the only supermarket is a small format then that's the whole area cooked for me and back to the drawing board.

Prodical wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:16 pm

I was shoe shopping on Saturday (a 3 yearly ritual)

Prodical wrote:I was shoe shopping on Saturday (a 3 yearly ritual) in the shop directly to the east of the Victoria Tower site.

The owner said that he thought the Market tower would start in June and the Victoria Tower by the end of the year.

Hope so - will expand the city centre and enable another 1.000 or so people to live in the CBD