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Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:23 pm
by Will
A few more developments which i don't think have been listed here:



Grand Central Medical Centre

2 Augustine Drive MAWSON LAKES SA, 5095

* PRIVATE LOCK UP CAR PARK - BY NEG:
* Suit all medical service applications.
* 30 residential Apartments,*(Soon to be released "Off the Plan").
* Construction scheduled to commence early 2009.
* Expected completion Early 2010.
* Situated in brand new Mixed Commercial & Residential Estate,
* Adjacent Salisbury Highway and transport Rail & Bus Interconnecter.

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CORNERSTONE APARTMENTS

5/LOT 530 METRO PARADE MAWSON LAKES

European inspired and architecturally designed.
Located just a few minutes walk from Mawson Lakes Premium shopping precinct ‘The Promenade” offering restaurants, cafes, hotel and lakeside shopping, all of this situated in an award-winning environment just 15 minutes from the Adelaide CBD. Cornerstone presents an opportunity to minimise lifestyle hassles and maximise investment return.

LIVING OPTIONS
Four storey building 18 stylish apartments over three levels with ground floor parking.

Estimated completion date –Mid 2009

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SAPPHIRE APARTMENTS

5 COVENTRY STREET MAWSON LAKES

24 x 2 bedroom apartments some with en-suite, R/C split system air-conditioning, BIR, some with separate laundry. Large balconies, open plan living, designer colour scheme with options to upgrade. Stainless steel appliances including dish washer, 1 secure car park, solar hot water, home management system, card swipe entry, lift access and more

Designed by the leading Vartzokas Architects
Sapphire apartments promise to be a unique offering.

Buy off the plan today with 10% deposit or bank guarantee with nothing further to pay until completion late 2010.

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Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:09 pm
by bm7500
King_Kong wrote:A little insider info for you all

4 major developments are in the works for Mawson Lakes

submitted to council.

1. $25mil new Hotal on corner Elder Smith Drive and Salisbury Hwy- called the Cascades Hotel

2. $50mil new Private Hospital and retail centre on the corner of Elder Smith and Main Street (Capital Street)

3. $9mil new serviced apartments to assist in servicing current Mawson Lakes Hotel

In neg.

4. New Cinema complex to be located on Shoalhaven side of Elder Smith Drive, under the bridge
The Cascades Hotel sounds interesting :)

But given that the proposed Hospital will be in a Prime location, hopefully some thought is put into an interesting and contemporary design... and not just a white box!

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:32 pm
by muzzamo
I wonder what percentage of people buying these apartments are "investors" (speculators) ?

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:08 pm
by AtD
Thanks for the updates Will. Are they from real estate sites again?
King_Kong wrote:4. New Cinema complex to be located on Shoalhaven side of Elder Smith Drive, under the bridge
Sounds interesting. Which side is that? North of the rail line and west of Elder Smith Drive? Has Mawson Lakes reached the size to support a cinema, especially so far away from the current town centre?
muzzamo wrote:I wonder what percentage of people buying these apartments are "investors" (speculators) ?
Probably higher than the national average. Apartments are less likely to be owner-occupiers.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:12 pm
by aussie2000
AtD wrote:Sounds interesting. Which side is that? North of the rail line and west of Elder Smith Drive? Has Mawson Lakes reached the size to support a cinema, especially so far away from the current town centre?
I think it could, i think people from surrounding areas would use it too, as theres no cinema in the area, i live at Montague Farm and i would defiantly rather use a cinema at Mawson Lakes than go to TTP

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:23 pm
by jk1237
Montague Farm ?????????????????? Is that Pooraka

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:26 am
by King_Kong
The proposed Cinema will be located behind the city to Gawler side of the railway lines- as you come from mawson onto elder smith part of Mawson Central west.

Also new greek kabab cafe opening on ground floor of the broadview appts next to woolies.

New shopping centre is still in planning stage for vacant lot next to woolies- approx 4 story 2 levels of shopping, 1 level carpark and 1 level office space.

DFO (direct factory outlet) along main north road, parafield airport as part of the $400mil new shopping and business precinct.
DFO's are located in the eastern states and are more up market outlet stores then you get at harbour town.

Proposed extention to the mawson lakes golf club to 18 holes.

New sports centre Gym as part of Uni SA to be developed next to Escarda along main street.

***BIG NEWS*** DELFIN and Ridley ptl ltd (owners of the salt lakes at dry creek) are in neg. to move salt lakes further north and redevelop land as mixed use commercial/retail/residential housing upto 20000 people.(bigger version of M/lakes

This is in the early stages- as proposed northern corridor needs to be re-examined. at this stage no news if it will again be called mawson lakes or something else. The land avail is almost double the size allocated to delfin for the original mawson lakes development- and stretches from corner of salis. hwy and port wakefield road to behind the exit to hanson road.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:01 am
by cruel_world00
King_Kong wrote:The proposed Cinema will be located behind the city to Gawler side of the railway lines- as you come from mawson onto elder smith part of Mawson Central west.

Also new greek kabab cafe opening on ground floor of the broadview appts next to woolies.

New shopping centre is still in planning stage for vacant lot next to woolies- approx 4 story 2 levels of shopping, 1 level carpark and 1 level office space.

DFO (direct factory outlet) along main north road, parafield airport as part of the $400mil new shopping and business precinct.
DFO's are located in the eastern states and are more up market outlet stores then you get at harbour town.

Proposed extention to the mawson lakes golf club to 18 holes.

New sports centre Gym as part of Uni SA to be developed next to Escarda along main street.

***BIG NEWS*** DELFIN and Ridley ptl ltd (owners of the salt lakes at dry creek) are in neg. to move salt lakes further north and redevelop land as mixed use commercial/retail/residential housing upto 20000 people.(bigger version of M/lakes

This is in the early stages- as proposed northern corridor needs to be re-examined. at this stage no news if it will again be called mawson lakes or something else. The land avail is almost double the size allocated to delfin for the original mawson lakes development- and stretches from corner of salis. hwy and port wakefield road to behind the exit to hanson road.


Urban sprawl?

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:21 am
by muzzamo
cruel_world00 wrote:Urban sprawl?
Its easy to say that when you already own property in the sprawl. If you are a victim of the current bubble which was in part caused by not enough available housing, you would take a different view on things.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:19 pm
by bm7500
muzzamo wrote:
cruel_world00 wrote:Urban sprawl?
Its easy to say that when you already own property in the sprawl. If you are a victim of the current bubble which was in part caused by not enough available housing, you would take a different view on things.
Its not Urban Sprawl at all. Urban sprawl in Adelaide is more housing to the Northern or Southern fringes. Filling in the largley vacant North Western suburbs makes sense as there is already infrastracture around it that can be tapped into.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:30 pm
by Shuz
Thats actually a huge reservation of land north of the Port River Expressway. Even I believe that 20,000 homes is a conservative estimate - assuming that the site boundary is Little Para River - I would say that'd be more accomodating for at least 40,000 homes or at least 100-120 thousand people. This would be a good development hotspot to attract new migrants, particularly the 50,000 Filipinos - could establish a town centre that reminesces their homeland?

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:39 pm
by Will
AtD wrote:Thanks for the updates Will. Are they from real estate sites again?

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Yes

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:39 pm
by bm7500
Shuz wrote:Thats actually a huge reservation of land north of the Port River Expressway. Even I believe that 20,000 homes is a conservative estimate - assuming that the site boundary is Little Para River - I would say that'd be more accomodating for at least 40,000 homes or at least 100-120 thousand people. This would be a good development hotspot to attract new migrants, particularly the 50,000 Filipinos - could establish a town centre that reminesces their homeland?
Its not that simple Shuz. Roads, infrastructure, commercial properties, parks, lakes etc all take up space and therefore lessens the amount of residential property allotments. Its all about balance in a development like this, not jamming in as many people as you can. Also, if you 'patronise' the Filipino’s by way of establishing a town centre for them, you in turn alienate other potential buyers / investors.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:40 pm
by King_Kong
There is plenty of vacant land in the north and north west, from parafield gardens, paralowie and burton to the piece of land we use to dirt bikes along the port river expressway before eastern parade port adelaide. urban sprawl as mentioned is extending the metro boundries out past gawler and aldinga. there is a lot of land in inner metro that can be reclaimed- again mentioning the salt lakes, hobby farms in populas suburbs, old industrial estates that can be located further out.

The city of salisbury is even looking to take a leaf out of its own book with mawson lakes and looking to redevelop salisbury in a similar fashion. john st salisbury which is now only know for its banks, mortage brokers and quick cash companies is looking to revitalise john st by giving it a face lift, bringing in more cafes and resturants and building residential aptms above.

this is what Adelaide needs. there are only 3 major suburbs in adelaide that offer retail/residential mixed dwellings. Adelaide CBD, glenelg and Mawson Lakes. mid to high density would assist people to get into the property market and at lower cost than traditional dwellings without moving to the outskirts of the metro slowing urban sprawl and centralising populations.
centralised populations produce better economics, money is spent locally, less pollution from excessive vehicle use and hopefully a fitter society (walking more) as amenities are centrally located.

I find this at Mawson Lakes already- everything being so central means I hardly take my car when I need to go places. a bustling metropolis or self sufficient community offereing all amenities- this is a suburb, this is a community. This is Adelaides second CBD.

Re: Mawson Lakes - Not just another suburb

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:35 pm
by AtD
King_Kong wrote:mid to high density would assist people to get into the property market and at lower cost than traditional dwellings without moving to the outskirts of the metro slowing urban sprawl and centralising populations.
centralised populations produce better economics, money is spent locally, less pollution from excessive vehicle use and hopefully a fitter society (walking more) as amenities are centrally located.
Agreed.

And just to note, the housing shortage is as much to do with a shortage of qualified tradesmen (they're all in the mines), high cost of construction materials (it's all off to China) and under-utilisation of existing urban space (ie sprawl).