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Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:36 pm
by SRW
Xaragmata wrote:Woolworths, yesterday:

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Thanks for the photos Xara.

I saw this in person yesterday and I have to say that this redevelopment, when coupled with the Rundle Plaza project directly opposite, is going to make for a rather cold and characterless stretch of mall. It'll be a real pity to see the old Harris Scarfe and Roger David buildings go.
AtD wrote:Thanks for that. Those escalators are puzzling. Any clue where they go?
To the bottom level of the supermarket, as before?

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:08 pm
by AtD
SRW wrote:To the bottom level of the supermarket, as before?
So where are the check outs then?

I would also like to thank Xaragmata for being such a frequent updater of construction photos.

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:37 pm
by jk1237
AtD wrote:
So where are the check outs then?
patience Mr AtD. No ones allowed in yet, only what we can see through that gap, so we have to wait

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:56 pm
by SRW
jk1237 wrote:
AtD wrote:
So where are the check outs then?
patience Mr AtD. No ones allowed in yet, only what we can see through that gap, so we have to wait
True. Though I imagine they'll be through to the left.

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:46 pm
by crawf
I have never been so happy to see a supermarket open, its been annoying not having a major supermarket in the mall.
AtD wrote:Thanks for that. Those escalators are puzzling. Any clue where they go?
Maybe they go down to a new Woolworths Liquor outlet?, That is the only thing I can think off.

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:01 am
by Omicron
SRW wrote:
Thanks for the photos Xara.

I saw this in person yesterday and I have to say that this redevelopment, when coupled with the Rundle Plaza project directly opposite, is going to make for a rather cold and characterless stretch of mall. It'll be a real pity to see the old Harris Scarfe and Roger David buildings go.
+1

I'd include the underwhelming David Jones building in that criticism, too. Thank goodness for the nearby Adelaide and Regent Arcades adding a bit of spark to the area.

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:35 am
by Xaragmata
AtD wrote:Thanks for that. Those escalators are puzzling. Any clue where they go?
This is the underwhelming mall entrance, & looks like Woolworths will be liquor on ground floor behind the new tenancies, with supermarket in
basement as SRW said. I hope they make that entrance a bit more inviting.

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:21 am
by monotonehell
Xaragmata wrote:... I hope they make that entrance a bit more inviting.
They wont. It'll be utilitarian white and down lights which will look tacky with wear.

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:17 am
by Prince George
Omicron wrote:
SRW wrote:
Thanks for the photos Xara.

I saw this in person yesterday and I have to say that this redevelopment, when coupled with the Rundle Plaza project directly opposite, is going to make for a rather cold and characterless stretch of mall. It'll be a real pity to see the old Harris Scarfe and Roger David buildings go.
+1

I'd include the underwhelming David Jones building in that criticism, too. Thank goodness for the nearby Adelaide and Regent Arcades adding a bit of spark to the area.
There is some bitter irony in the same groups of people that build faceless slabs like this then turn around and declare that the mall is dying and something must be done (by someone else with someone else's money).

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:41 am
by crawf
I think we should reserve our judgement until it opens.

This store is meant to be similar to Harbourtown but it looks nothing like it atm.

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:48 am
by Stubbo
I assume that they have factored in how many people use that Woolworths. Looks like a reasonably small opening for the level of foot traffic it has at certain times of the day.

I would assume the interior is very similar to new Woolworths, but the exterior very different. The basement area is where most of the actual supermarket items were anyways, with only confectionary, stationary and the liquor being upstairs. As long as the flow of people in and out is smooth, it should be good, even though I have doubts about that entrance in terms of design, the old entrance used to clog up very quickly with people.

Actually on second take, I like that they have the escalators in two different directions, the old set up was annoying, as you came up from the basement you had to cross over people going towards the down ramp to get to the express lines, I am a bit more positive about the layout now..... :)

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:11 pm
by cruel_world00
A friend of mine works there and said something about there being a greater focus on self checkouts and very few actual checkouts.

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:26 am
by Nathan
cruel_world00 wrote:A friend of mine works there and said something about there being a greater focus on self checkouts and very few actual checkouts.
Screw that then. If they're anything like the ones at Coles on Grote St, then I couldn't be bothered. So far they've proved to be inaccurate, and constantly flagging errors, that it's MORE time consuming than waiting at a normal checkout.

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:29 am
by Omicron
Prince George wrote: There is some bitter irony in the same groups of people that build faceless slabs like this then turn around and declare that the mall is dying and something must be done (by someone else with someone else's money).
Oh, lordy, yes. 'Here's a dull box that looks exactly like the suburban shopping centres we Mall traders look down upon. Now subsidise the parking, change the pavers, add flashy coloured screens to divert attention away from our dull facades, encourage small business in laneways that we only build tenancies on because we're forced to....'

Re: New Retail in the CBD

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:34 am
by Omicron
Nathan wrote:
cruel_world00 wrote:A friend of mine works there and said something about there being a greater focus on self checkouts and very few actual checkouts.
Screw that then. If they're anything like the ones at Coles on Grote St, then I couldn't be bothered. So far they've proved to be inaccurate, and constantly flagging errors, that it's MORE time consuming than waiting at a normal checkout.
I guarantee you that a good checkout operator will have you and your shopping out of the store in less time than a self-service machine. The problem, of course, is the lack of signage directing us to the good operators and away from the bitter old tarts, your new best friend with acute word vomit, or uninterested hair-twiddling sops.