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Nathan wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:50 pm

Even beyond that. I left a comment on the Nick Mitzevich story stating how much of a loss it is (like others) but also hoped that he could use his remaining time with AGSA to cement the Adelaide Contemporary. *vvvvpppp* deleted. I have a feeling I'm on some sort of watch list, as it's happened quite a few times.

Llessur2002 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:05 pm

Nathan wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:50 pm

Even beyond that. I left a comment on the Nick Mitzevich story stating how much of a loss it is (like others) but also hoped that he could use his remaining time with AGSA to cement the Adelaide Contemporary. *vvvvpppp* deleted. I have a feeling I'm on some sort of watch list, as it's happened quite a few times.

I saw that comment - it really wasn't that harsh at all. Shows just how little substance the Libs have behind some of their ideas if they can't even justify why they chose the site of the long-planned contemporary gallery to house the indigenous gallery when there were plenty of other options for the latter.

Llessur2002 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:41 am

Here's the article. It's literally madness - the money that would be spend in ripping up and re-grading the entire intersection to introduce right hand turns that would cripple the intersection would surely be much better used to extend the network a little further e.g. if anything, why not just cross the KWS street bridge and put a stop outside the Oval? It would probably cost around the same...

SA Election 2018: Liberal leader Steven Marshall promises to make North Terrace tram services turn right

TRAMS will turn right onto North Terrace from King William Rd — if the State Liberals win Government.

The State Government last year announced it would spend $80 million on an upgrade to deliver four new stops, one at Festival Plaza behind Parliament House and three along North Tce to service the museum and library precinct as well as universities and the East End.

However, the notorious intersection drew criticism for not permitting a right hand turn that would seamlessly connect services on the Glenelg line with the East End.

Works to upgrade the intersection were completed earlier this year.

On Thursday, the State Liberals pledged they will “Labor‘s tram joke and let trams turn right”.

Previous expert analysis commissioned by the Greens revealed a right turn for trams on North Tce would cost an estimated $37 million.

The documents were produced by the new Parliamentary Budget Advisory Service in February in response to an application by Greens MP Mark Parnell.

It declined a request to model a cost of including a right hand turn as part of the original build.

However, the PBAS also warns that its estimate for a new build is of “low reliability” and “detailed costing will need to be undertaken to deliver a better cost estimate”.

“To add a right turn, the full intersection will be reconstructed to adjust the plane of the entire intersection to an acceptable gradient,” PBAS chief executive John Hill reports.

“There are significant risks with the geometry of the intersection that impact whether trams could safely navigate through right hand turn movements.”

Trams have formed a large part of Premier Jay Weatherill’s broader infrastructure plan as Labor campaigns to be returned to power on March 17.

Labor has promised more than $500 million to tram projects so far this campaign, including extensions to North Adelaide and Norwood.

From: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sa-e ... 8594078a4f

Llessur2002 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:33 pm

If the Libs do make a tram announcement other than needlessly replacing the KWS/NT junction, my money's on the airport line but with Downer funding it.

The question is - would Downer be interested in running trams on SDB or Richmond Road, or would they insist on Henley Beach Road?

Waewick wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:58 pm

A few reporters are suggesting more to come over the next week.

Otherwise seems like a fairly pointless promise.

Haso wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:24 pm

Llessur2002 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:33 pm

If the Libs do make a tram announcement other than needlessly replacing the KWS/NT junction, my money's on the airport line but with Downer funding it.

The question is - would Downer be interested in running trams on SDB or Richmond Road, or would they insist on Henley Beach Road?

I am not advocating this option “so please do not shout at me”, but when I arrived in Adelaide there was also talk about using Keswick creek as a cheapest corridor for tram (light rail) between City – Mile End and the airport…
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Election 2018: Liberal Party reveals broad transport plan for Adelaide
Daniel Wills, State Political Editor, The Advertiser
23 minutes ago



TRAMS looping around the CBD and a spur line heading north past the Adelaide Oval would be investigated by a new authority in charge of public transport under a Liberal plan.

Opposition Leader Steven Marshall promised $37 million to fix the North Tce “tram joke” and allow carriages to turn right from King William St to the East End.

The Advertiser also can reveal the Liberals’ broader transport plan includes a new SA Public Transport Authority to investigate “major reform” to ticket pricing and routes.

The policy does not commit the Liberals to building new tram lines, but says options, including a North Adelaide spur and city loops would be considered by an independent expert body to see if they stack up.

Mr Marshall said he would also consider trials of “high capacity electric buses” to prove they were better and cheaper than building fixed tram tracks that disrupted on-street parking, traffic and businesses.

The Liberals also would review fares, with an aim to increase public transport use and simplify the system.

Options include day passes so trips over a set number become free on weekdays, Saturday discounts and capped fares on Sundays and public holidays.

The Liberals also would consider discounted semester passes for university and TAFE students, and card or mobile payments.

Mr Marshall said the Liberals would also clarify the frequency of services with new Go Zones that have 15 minute or half-hour departures.

Labor has pledged half a billion dollars in tram extensions with lines to Prospect and Norwood, in the heart of Mr Marshall’s own electorate.

The Liberals have categorically ruled out the Norwood tram as well as mooted lines to Unley and the Adelaide Airport via Henley Beach Rd.

Their policy leaves the door open to further O-Bahn upgrades despite controversy over Labor’s $160 million parklands tunnel extension. The Liberals would consider taking the existing service beyond Tea Tree Plaza to the Golden Grove Shopping Centre.

The new SA Public Transport Authority would be required to make annual reports to the government about public satisfaction with services and ideas for change.

Mr Marshall said the existing public transport network was “not meeting customer expectations or needs”. “Less use of public transport means more congestion on our roads and higher costs for households using cars rather than the bus, tram or train,” he said.

“We have a bus network that is ... too infrequent to attract new customers.”

Premier Jay Weatherill dismissed the Liberal right-turn pledge, which Labor says will worsen traffic for cars and pedestrians as well are require the North Tce and Rundle St intersection to be dug up again for another month of work.

“It doesn’t take you any further than our vision,” Mr Weaherill said. “Steven Marshall doesn’t know where he’s headed in relation to trams.

“He is utterly confused.”

Mr Weatherill last month promised to save some commuters more than $300 a year with cut 28-day pass fares that apply from April 3. That will be matched by the Liberals.