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Re: #PRO : Dry Creek Residential Development 20,000 Residents
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:43 pm
by rev
Erm, who would want to live in an area infested with mosquitoes every summer?
Mentioned also in the other thread I believe.
Also, be a housing development or an airport, wouldn't it require the removal of the mangroves? I can really see that going by unnoticed by nimbies and tree huggers.
Re: #PRO : Dry Creek Residential Development 20,000 Residents
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:49 pm
by Prince George
I have to admit to being really confused about this - apart from being on salt-pans adjacent to mangroves, wouldn't these 20,000 people be bounded by Bolivar to the north and the Wingfield landfill to the south? This is sounding like that old joke: "it ain't actually in Hell, but you can see Hell from there"
Re: #H/D: Gawler East | 2500h | 219ha
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:48 am
by deano91
I think this is the right thread?? From AdelaideNow.com.au:
Plan for SA 'super town'
Article from: Sunday Mail (SA)
RENATO CASTELLO
October 18, 2009 12:01am
EXCLUSIVE: THE masterplan for a multi-billion-dollar town of more than 18,000 homes and 46,000 people, earmarked for Adelaide's north, has finally been released.
Seven primary and high schools and a tertiary institution, offices, shops, two commuter train stations and a water recycling plant are all envisioned for the new community.
The Sunday Mail can reveal the Macquarie Group's land development arm, Urban Pacific, has drawn up the masterplan to expand the little-known town of Concordia, east of Gawler.
About 2500ha of farm land would be developed over a 40-year period but, contingent on state planning approval, work could start as early as 2011 with the first houses available in 2012.
Among the features proposed for the town are:
18,400 ALLOTMENTS spread across five neighbourhoods and a town centre housing more than 46,000 people.
TWO TRAIN stations linked to the Gawler rail line, with the extended rail line to be funded by the developer.
FIVE PRIMARY schools, two high schools and a tertiary institution.
OFFICES and shops to support an estimated 6570 jobs.
A WASTE-WATER treatment plant to provide recycled water for irrigation.
New roads would be built to link the town with the Barossa Valley Hwy to the south and the Sturt Hwy and the new Northern Expressway.
Details of the new town were revealed in a publicly available submission to the State Government's draft 30-year plan for Greater Metropolitan Adelaide - one of 578 submissions received during public consultation which closed last month.
"The vision for the new Concordia township is to create a large-scale sustainable and largely self-contained new town," said the submission, prepared by Jensen Planning and Design on behalf of Urban Pacific.
"The township will provide for diversity of housing for ages and incomes and include high density, medium and lower density areas.
"Barossa Council members have indicated their in-principle support (subject to a full investigation and community consultation) and their preparedness to promote future rezoning of the land for urban purposes."
Construction of the town would require the State Government to rezone the land from rural to urban.
In its 30-year growth strategy, the Government has identified Concordia, Roseworthy and Mallala as key areas potentially housing more than 140,000 people by 2040. In December 2007, the Government extended the urban growth boundary to include this area.
The Jensen submission said Urban Pacific was "working" with landowners who control about 2500ha of land to establish the new community.
The Sunday Mail understands Urban Pacific has options to buy the land contingent on the Government approving the rezoning.
Barossa Mayor Brian Hurn said the council had been aware of the project for "quite some time" and supported the establishment of a new town centre at Concordia.
"What the council has said is that we need to have some further information and further investigation into the detail," he said.
"The council would very much prefer to have a new sustainable town in that area rather than unco-ordinated sprawl of Gawler.
"It is, if you like, a way of endeavouring to preserve the integrity of the Barossa."
Planning Minister Paul Holloway's media spokesman, Owen Brown, said Barossa Council and Urban Pacific had approached the Minister in early 2008 "flagging" their interest in a master-planned community in Concordia.
"This is the sort of proposal that the Government is hoping to encourage by putting the 30-year plan out to consultation as well as by adjusting the urban growth boundary back in 2007," he said.
"This submission will be considered along with the more than 500 submissions received through the community consultation on the 30-year plan."
Urban Pacific SA general manager Mark Divine did not respond before the Sunday Mail's deadline.
Jensen Planning and Design director Peter Jensen referred the paper to Urban Pacific's senior acquisitions manager Chris Bradley, but he was overseas and unavailable for comment.
That's quite a significant development! I spose the Gawler Line would be renamed the Concordia Line then, kinda has a ring to it...
Re: #H/D: Gawler East | 2500h | 219ha
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:36 am
by Norman
Great news that they are extending the line in this manner, especially if the developer is actually going to fund it himself.
#PRO: Concordia Town Expansion
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:58 am
by bm7500
From:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au
EXCLUSIVE: THE masterplan for a multi-billion-dollar town of more than 18,000 homes and 46,000 people, earmarked for Adelaide's north, has finally been released.
Seven primary and high schools and a tertiary institution, offices, shops, two commuter train stations and a water recycling plant are all envisioned for the new community.
The Sunday Mail can reveal the Macquarie Group's land development arm, Urban Pacific, has drawn up the masterplan to expand the little-known town of Concordia, east of Gawler.
About 2500ha of farm land would be developed over a 40-year period but, contingent on state planning approval, work could start as early as 2011 with the first houses available in 2012.
Among the features proposed for the town are:
18,400 ALLOTMENTS spread across five neighbourhoods and a town centre housing more than 46,000 people.
TWO TRAIN stations linked to the Gawler rail line, with the extended rail line to be funded by the developer.
FIVE PRIMARY schools, two high schools and a tertiary institution.
OFFICES and shops to support an estimated 6570 jobs.
A WASTE-WATER treatment plant to provide recycled water for irrigation.
New roads would be built to link the town with the Barossa Valley Hwy to the south and the Sturt Hwy and the new Northern Expressway.
Details of the new town were revealed in a publicly available submission to the State Government's draft 30-year plan for Greater Metropolitan Adelaide - one of 578 submissions received during public consultation which closed last month.
"The vision for the new Concordia township is to create a large-scale sustainable and largely self-contained new town," said the submission, prepared by Jensen Planning and Design on behalf of Urban Pacific.
"The township will provide for diversity of housing for ages and incomes and include high density, medium and lower density areas.
"Barossa Council members have indicated their in-principle support (subject to a full investigation and community consultation) and their preparedness to promote future rezoning of the land for urban purposes."
Construction of the town would require the State Government to rezone the land from rural to urban.
In its 30-year growth strategy, the Government has identified Concordia, Roseworthy and Mallala as key areas potentially housing more than 140,000 people by 2040. In December 2007, the Government extended the urban growth boundary to include this area.
The Jensen submission said Urban Pacific was "working" with landowners who control about 2500ha of land to establish the new community.
The Sunday Mail understands Urban Pacific has options to buy the land contingent on the Government approving the rezoning.
Barossa Mayor Brian Hurn said the council had been aware of the project for "quite some time" and supported the establishment of a new town centre at Concordia.
"What the council has said is that we need to have some further information and further investigation into the detail," he said.
"The council would very much prefer to have a new sustainable town in that area rather than unco-ordinated sprawl of Gawler.
"It is, if you like, a way of endeavouring to preserve the integrity of the Barossa."
Planning Minister Paul Holloway's media spokesman, Owen Brown, said Barossa Council and Urban Pacific had approached the Minister in early 2008 "flagging" their interest in a master-planned community in Concordia.
"This is the sort of proposal that the Government is hoping to encourage by putting the 30-year plan out to consultation as well as by adjusting the urban growth boundary back in 2007," he said.
"This submission will be considered along with the more than 500 submissions received through the community consultation on the 30-year plan."
Urban Pacific SA general manager Mark Divine did not respond before the Sunday Mail's deadline.
Jensen Planning and Design director Peter Jensen referred the paper to Urban Pacific's senior acquisitions manager Chris Bradley, but he was overseas and unavailable for comment.
Re: #PRO: Concordia Town Expansion
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:38 am
by AtD
Re: #H/D: Gawler East | 2500h | 219ha
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:40 am
by AG
Norman wrote:Great news that they are extending the line in this manner, especially if the developer is actually going to fund it himself.
I think "him" is a bit specific. Urban Pacific is quite a large developer of planned communities, and they are involved with Westwood and St Clair as well.
Re: #H/D: Gawler East | 2500h | 219ha
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:00 pm
by Splashmo
On one hand this is just more urban sprawl, but on the other it's a smart community with the train line, schools and offices. It's a pity we don't have 46,000 more people in and around the CBD rather than out at Gawler, yet it's a much better plan than Buckland Park.
Re: #PRO: Concordia Town Expansion
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:01 pm
by fabricator
I did some research, its not Gawler East, but an entirely separate development with a different developer too.
Partial section of a map (news.com)
Of note is the railway shown, its not the existing one, but a new branch.
Re: #PRO: Concordia Town Expansion
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:02 pm
by Omicron
Now, does this mean we can never, never, never hear about the hideous Buckland Park ever again?
Re: #PRO: Concordia Town Expansion
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:30 pm
by JamesXander
The whinging on AdelaideNow was unbearable.
Do people want SA to die a slow death. FFS if we don't get population growth our state is never going to move forward. At one stage I too was lulled into the 'no lets not grow I'm content with little traffic'. But the fact is we can't have that, and then complain about poor services. The world at the moment revolves around growth.
Thats why AdelaideNow was cringeworthy, people were complaining about growth, then had the stupidity to then go on about services. Well FFS people who is going to maintain those services when your in a nursing home!
Re: #PRO: Concordia Town Expansion
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:35 pm
by Hooligan
So we're getting a Super way and now we're getting a Super town?
What next? a Super Nintendo?
Re: #PRO: Concordia Town Expansion
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:13 pm
by fabricator
JamesXander wrote:The whinging on AdelaideNow was unbearable.
Do people want SA to die a slow death. FFS if we don't get population growth our state is never going to move forward. At one stage I too was lulled into the 'no lets not grow I'm content with little traffic'. But the fact is we can't have that, and then complain about poor services. The world at the moment revolves around growth.
Thats why AdelaideNow was cringeworthy, people were complaining about growth, then had the stupidity to then go on about services. Well FFS people who is going to maintain those services when your in a nursing home!
I did have an intelligent thought to add to this forum thread, unfortunately I read the AdelaideNow comments and it wiped out part of my memory.
FFS what is with the "oh they better build a super prison" and "lets call it Bogan East" style comments
:wank:
These morons are further proof that we should have a minimum IQ to vote in elections. Actually I think being an ignorant prick should result in a ban from ever owning a business.
Oh yes, if every new suburb is dumbed bogan town, its going to fill with unemployed people, purely as a result of ignorance from those in business or other positions of power.
Anyway, I'm going to redesign Gawler for my next vision project. See how it would look if the council hadn't interfered with commercial and road development.
Re: #PRO: Concordia Town Expansion
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:39 am
by Splashmo
There's a big spread in the newspaper today about Gawler folk complaining their town is losing its country vibe.
Fair point, and they're welcome to move further out to a real country town where there's no metropolitan train line or any of the other conveniences of living close to the city.
Re: #PRO: Concordia Town Expansion
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:53 pm
by skyliner
And how does this fit in with grand plan of medium density inner suburban living vs urban sprawl?
SA - STATE ON THE MOVE