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[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:16 am
by Waewick
AG wrote:Waewick wrote:that is true
but that alse reflects the depth in the market on both developers able to handle that level of debt and potential tenants.
There wouldn't be many Adelaidians (in the development game) able to sit on $80-100m whilst the locate tenants and given we still live in a city where the vast majority of tenants of these spaces are Government departments the likely hood of picking a decent tenant is also difficult.
It's quite possible that neither of the two parties in the joint venture for this development would've got financing approval had they decided to go at it alone.
The last point you bring up highlights how dependent Adelaide's office market is on government departments to get projects up and going. A significant chunk of City Central 1 is occupied by government departments, there's the SA Water Building as well. Most tenants in the Adelaide market are smaller firms or small operating centres of companies based interstate. There's a handful of companies based in Adelaide that have enough weight to justify a large new office building (e.g. Santos), but nowhere near as many as interstate. I do know one company that is located at 33 King William Street currently occupies 5 floors of that building, and they've recently had to take out space in Grenfell Street because of the rapidly growing Mining sector, so there are a few around.
That is really Adealide's major problems in terms of high rise density - I can't see that company looking to pay the required rental to have a new building built as it as the head lease.
We are a state of SME's which if they do grow beyond that , move head quarters to Sydney or Melbourne.
If someone can wave their magic wand and get not only to population density required but also the business comminty density requried we will start seeing things change around here.
but until then, new buildings will be about Government departments, the people that serivce them and the service providers for the SME's (Banks, Accountants, Lawyers)
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:01 am
by Ben
7/24 have now sold according to yesterdays paper. Just a few more and we can see construction start
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:47 am
by Dvious
Was just on their website yesterday, hopefully this gets off its feet soon, going to fill the gap nicely.
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:10 pm
by skyliner
Dvious wrote:Was just on their website yesterday, hopefully this gets off its feet soon, going to fill the gap nicely.
Dvious - can you supply the website so we/I can investigate also. Looking forward to this one - will really add a new dimension to KWS.
ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:42 pm
by Dvious
Not sure how old or new it is,
http://www.115kws.com.au/
But its just a site for the building, im really looking forward to this one, fingers crossed!
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:51 pm
by IAintTouchin
I saw some work being done on the site of this today. I have a feeling this is going to start up very soon,
I think it's this site?
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:13 pm
by Will
IAintTouchin wrote:I saw some work being done on the site of this today. I have a feeling this is going to start up very soon,
I think it's this site?
What type of work?
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:41 pm
by IAintTouchin
I'm not one to be technical in describing but I saw like beams and people on top of those beams doing things with those beams
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:45 am
by Dvious
Was there a crane?
This could be exciting, explain yourself son!
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:15 pm
by serca
Will wrote:IAintTouchin wrote:I saw some work being done on the site of this today. I have a feeling this is going to start up very soon,
I think it's this site?
What type of work?
Im not sure if this is the site you were referring to but it looked like SWP on the ELECTRA HOUSE site on friday???? scaffolding was being erected
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:37 am
by IAintTouchin
^^ Yep my bad. hah. It was Electra
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:40 am
by Dvious
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:50 am
by [Shuz]
Well, either way! I'm glad that something is finally being done at Electra House!
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:55 am
by Ben
Are you sure it wasn't seating for the Christmas Pageant? there was lots of temporary scaffolding along King Willaim Street on Saturday..
[COM] Re: APP: 115 King William St | 86M | 25lvls | Office
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:58 pm
by Dvious
Drove past today and didnt see any activity on site.