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momentkiller wrote: But hey, we all know what the ACC is like when it comes to 'skyscrapers' (shock horror!)

I'll believe it when I hear it.

Well they approved a 230m tower before? Not surprising if they would approve something of that height again.

momentkiller wrote:I knew all along that CASA and AAL are fine with it. As stated many times before, planes do not fly OVER the cbd (much to the ACC's thinking that they do) anyways, given the thumbs up from these two authorities and recommendations of approval should only deliver a positive response. But hey, we all know what the ACC is like when it comes to 'skyscrapers' (shock horror!)

I'll believe it when I hear it.

Why the hell do we have a stupid height restriction of around 100m in the CBD if the planes do not fly over it??? I just wish they let the market determine the height. Well, here's hoping that this one gets the nod because I would dearly love to not see Westpac from Light's vision anymore.

This building could be brilliant, but I'm just hoping it's not the same cheap looking, revolting glass used in Santos, Flinders, City Central, etc.

Al wrote:

momentkiller wrote:I knew all along that CASA and AAL are fine with it. As stated many times before, planes do not fly OVER the cbd (much to the ACC's thinking that they do) anyways, given the thumbs up from these two authorities and recommendations of approval should only deliver a positive response. But hey, we all know what the ACC is like when it comes to 'skyscrapers' (shock horror!)

I'll believe it when I hear it.

Why the hell do we have a stupid height restriction of around 100m in the CBD if the planes do not fly over it??? I just wish they let the market determine the height. Well, here's hoping that this one gets the nod because I would dearly love to not see Westpac from Light's vision anymore.

Planes fly over North Adelaide, which the gap between the CBD and NA is about 900/1000m. The ACC considers this 'CBD' - which it isn't, its just another suburb in its own entirety. Anyways, with the State Bank as our central building, the ACC wishes to conserve this 'image' that our skyline tapers off pyramidically from the centre (although slightly skewed by the density of buildings to the northern end of KWS) - so that State Bank will always be the 'dominant' tower. Its part of their delusional ideology that the city will look pretty and organised, just as the rest of Light's Vision was.

The SW/NE runway landing at Boston International is only 300m clearance from their CBD core - and they have a number of 200m+ buildings, as well as a 300m+ proposal. How they work thier radars or whatever around this, I don't know - but no planes have crashed in the CBD, so it seems safe and well to me - and a fine example that you do not need to have stupid height restrictions because of flight paths.

A solution to this issue - kudos to whoever mentioned it before, just declare the CBD a no-fly zone.

urban wrote:This building will add so much to the city's skyline. No longer will the inelegant Westpac(State Bank) building loom large over our city. This building is symbolic of our city's fortunes. Just as the new building will reduce the visual dominance of the State Bank building in our skyline (and even hide it from some angles), it's construction will be a symbol that the city is no longer defined and dominated by the State Bank collapse.

I believe you have raised a very important point there. Whatever the State Bank building is called today, everyone still knows it as the State Bank and what it represents. Its dominance of the skyline casts a subliminal stigma of economic malaise over the city. The height and "fresh" design of this building emanates a bright and positive future, countering the symbolism of the State Bank building.

Sounds like wanky new age stuff, but I do think it will have a positive effect on the psyche of people. Remember when the Crows won their first premiership and how everyone was happy and beaming with pride? The change in attitude overnight was phenomenal... it seemed as though the whole of SA felt invincible and nothing could hold us back (300,000 or so people turned up for the victory parade!), especially after the second premiership. Sadly though, that all seemed to revert when Malcolm Blight resigned mid-season.

Woo Hoo, this is awesome, I too hope this goes ahead, and more of them!!!

momentkiller wrote:I knew all along that CASA and AAL are fine with it. As stated many times before, planes do not fly OVER the cbd (much to the ACC's thinking that they do) anyways, given the thumbs up from these two authorities and recommendations of approval should only deliver a positive response. But hey, we all know what the ACC is like when it comes to 'skyscrapers' (shock horror!)

Planes do fly over the CBD. I saw two do that right over this proposed development a couple of weeks ago. Planes should be banned from doing this, even marginally. They should fly straight up on the same flightpath as landing from the north east and corner when they've passed North Adelaide so they stay way clear of the RAH.

Cheers

I like this project but I have doubts about its location. It would have been much better if it was somehwere else in the CBD, where it could stand out more and maybe have its own plaza. Pity we have so many small allotments in our city that unless you own several your hands are tied.

Cheers

I can't believe a decision will be made on this proposal tonight. I hope it gets approved. Is anyone going to the meeting? Wish I had the chance but too flat out busy. I doubt the DAP realise the significance of this project for the State. They'll only focus on their local Council area issues arising from this proposal as usual. I reckon it's a 50:50 either way. Who knows what the outcome will be. I am actually getting a bit nervous here

Wish I could make it too. Would be great if someone from our website listened in, and gave us a run down of the events tonight

Howie wrote:Wish I could make it too. Would be great if someone from our website listened in, and gave us a run down of the events tonight

What time is it? And you just go to the town hall? I could go after work...

Beamer. The meetings usually start around 5:30pm. Yes you can go straight in. You go into the Town Hall, main entrance and down a corridor into a meeting room. Just ask for the DAP meeting and the person at the front desk should help you.

I have been to a few meetings before and they can get very boring. This item is up first though so that is good. Listening to all the people wanting be represented may drive you nuts though. Planning staff, developers an architects will probably talk, that wll be a lot more interesting. You may find out some more info too. I am guessing the meeting will be fairly packed but you should be able to get in.

Good luck if you go it is quiet an experience. The elected members just make me laugh with their attitudes, can be funny to watch it, although if this one gets refused then very annoying instead

Yep.. here's the time/location

Meeting to be held in the Colonel Light Room, Town Hall, Adelaide, at 5.30pm

UrbanSG wrote:Beamer. The meetings usually start around 5:30pm. Yes you can go straight in. You go into the Town Hall, main entrance and down a corridor into a meeting room. Just ask for the DAP meeting and the person at the front desk should help you.

I have been to a few meetings before and they can get very boring. This item is up first though so that is good. Listening to all the people wanting be represented may drive you nuts though. Planning staff, developers an architects will probably talk, that wll be a lot more interesting. You may find out some more info too. I am guessing the meeting will be fairly packed but you should be able to get in.

Good luck if you go it is quiet an experience. The elected members just make me laugh with their attitudes, can be funny to watch it, although if this one gets refused then very annoying instead

Just checked the website and your right it starts at 5:30 so i will go straight from work will be interesting. I assume you can leave whenever you want? Because the various townhouse developments in North Adelaide don't interest me

Just an addition to that. The Colonel Light Room is the meeting room you want to go to. Yes you can leave at any time, most people do. I got ahead of myself as well, it is the 2nd matter on not the first. The first one shouldn't last too long though. Thanks for attending if you do go beamer. We need a payment system on this website to reward hard work