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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:21 pm
by Will409
SBD wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:12 pm
That looks like three grand union junctions down King William Street? (it's hard to tell as the street directory does not show two tracks), and also Wakefield/Pulteney/Hanson Streets?

Did the trams run both ways on one side of Whitmore Square, or did that section only go northbound? It looks like that end of Sturt Street fed into West Terrace to Currie Street as part of a city loop (no straight on drawn in West Terrace at Currie or Sturt Streets.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 92709&z=11

If you have a look at the photos for Whitmore Square, you will see both UP and DOWN tracks were located on the one side of the square.

The only full grand union in Adelaide was at the King William Street/North Terrace intersection. Three quarter unions were located in Hindmarsh Square and the intersection of Wakefield Street/Pulteney Street.

KWS/Grenfell/Currie Street intersection was an interesting case as before 1952, the tracks on KWS were the only tracks running straight across the intersection. Grenfell Street and Currie Street weren’t directly connected with tracks running straight across and instead had double track curves running in every direction. After 1952, tracks were laid across King William Street connecting Grenfell and Currie Streets directly. The double track curves were all reduced to a single track curve (think of the current eastern side of the new King William Street/North Terrace Junction mirrored).

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:06 am
by Ben
Article in today’s paper saying Atleast another month of work. It’s been delayed due to adelaide 500 and fringe. Yep those events came out of nowhere and we’re totally unexpected...

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:46 am
by rubberman
Ben wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:06 am
Article in today’s paper saying Atleast another month of work. It’s been delayed due to adelaide 500 and fringe. Yep those events came out of nowhere and we’re totally unexpected...

I'd agree with you there. The three weeks before the election saw almost zero work on the stops. This is simple concrete and assembly work. Yet for three weeks they did nothing. It's almost as if the Contractor was on strike...just before an election.

Working night and day for months, and then zero for 3 weeks before the election. Hmm. I wonder if they had kept up with the number of workers on the job, night and day, as promised, then it might now be finished.

Then there's the traffic control people. They were still working round the stops. It's almost like the traffic control people were supposed to be protecting people who didn't turn up.

It couldn't be that the contractors were hoping that a Liberal Government might be more receptive to their expensive airport tram rort? Nah. Impossible.

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:19 pm
by timtam20292
I thought the extra money was being spent so that the works could be completed on time, not for work to come to a halt for three weeks and now an extra month of work is now needed. What a joke.

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:50 pm
by Brucetiki
Haso wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:35 pm
Nathan wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:18 pm
Ben wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:06 pm
Apparently the government failed to submit a proposal to infrastructure Australia in time for the May budget deadline.
The article implies they did, but that it didn't make Infrastructure Australia's list of priority projects.
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I also couldn’t make it past the paywall but the summary sound somehow triumphant… maybe the article is a bit different...hope so.


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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the airport tram a private, unsolicited bid.

Imagine if Weatherill took that up - Marshall would be up in arms quicker than you can say Gillman

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:35 pm
by Norman
Ben wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:06 am
Article in today’s paper saying Atleast another month of work. It’s been delayed due to adelaide 500 and fringe. Yep those events came out of nowhere and we’re totally unexpected...
Here is the article

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:56 pm
by SBD
Will409 wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:21 pm
SBD wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:12 pm
That looks like three grand union junctions down King William Street? (it's hard to tell as the street directory does not show two tracks), and also Wakefield/Pulteney/Hanson Streets?

Did the trams run both ways on one side of Whitmore Square, or did that section only go northbound? It looks like that end of Sturt Street fed into West Terrace to Currie Street as part of a city loop (no straight on drawn in West Terrace at Currie or Sturt Streets.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 92709&z=11

If you have a look at the photos for Whitmore Square, you will see both UP and DOWN tracks were located on the one side of the square.

The only full grand union in Adelaide was at the King William Street/North Terrace intersection. Three quarter unions were located in Hindmarsh Square and the intersection of Wakefield Street/Pulteney Street.

KWS/Grenfell/Currie Street intersection was an interesting case as before 1952, the tracks on KWS were the only tracks running straight across the intersection. Grenfell Street and Currie Street weren’t directly connected with tracks running straight across and instead had double track curves running in every direction. After 1952, tracks were laid across King William Street connecting Grenfell and Currie Streets directly. The double track curves were all reduced to a single track curve (think of the current eastern side of the new King William Street/North Terrace Junction mirrored).
Thank you. From the positions of the parked car and the trailer in the photos for the Sturt Street/Whitmore Square stop, I see that Whitmore Square at the time was a two-way street, rather than the oversized roundabout formation it has now, so having trams run both ways would not have seemed odd.

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:45 pm
by Norman
From yesterday

Festival Centre Stop

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Lights are starting to be installed again. About 80% are back in.

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Gawler Place stop

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Wilson Par Park intersection

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Pulteney Street intersection

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Pulteney Street stop
Tiling remains to be done on the ramp

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Frome Street intersection

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East End stop

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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:02 pm
by crawf
Great pics Norman, though what the hell is going on with this?. I pass this daily and I've hardly seen any work being done.

It's seem since the election work is now being done at snail pace. It's beyond ridiculous now.

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:56 pm
by Haso
crawf wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:02 pm
Great pics Norman, though what the hell is going on with this?. I pass this daily and I've hardly seen any work being done.

It's seem since the election work is now being done at snail pace. It's beyond ridiculous now.
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Thanks Norman for the photos… I am avoiding that area, otherwise I will become depressed… I need a plum brandy now.
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:36 am
by monotonehell
crawf wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:02 pm
Great pics Norman, though what the hell is going on with this?. I pass this daily and I've hardly seen any work being done.

It's seem since the election work is now being done at snail pace. It's beyond ridiculous now.
They do the bulk of the work overnight, then pack it all away for the day traffic.

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:10 pm
by adelaide transport
monotonehell wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:36 am
crawf wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:02 pm
Great pics Norman, though what the hell is going on with this?. I pass this daily and I've hardly seen any work being done.

It's seem since the election work is now being done at snail pace. It's beyond ridiculous now.
They do the bulk of the work overnight, then pack it all away for the day traffic.
Its like they are on a "Go Slow" campaign.It looks like only a minimal amount is done each night?

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:22 pm
by adelaide transport
Citadis Tram 208 had its first day in service today.

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:47 pm
by Tonsley213
Surely can’t be too long before we see test teams running on the extensions could it?

Re: News & Discussion: Trams

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:56 pm
by The Scooter Guy
Tonsley213 wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:47 pm
Surely can’t be too long before we see test teams running on the extensions could it?
Most Likely! :D