Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:55 pm
sooo... Does anyone have any idea when the East End extension will open? I walk past it every morning and night, surely they can't be far away from finished now.
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They did almost no work on the stops for three weeks before the election, and have literally spent two weeks putting down pavers...and not finishing that even.
Unlike the old tram poles which were specifically dedigned for the job, these just look like light poles.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:51 pmAnd yet still no word on whether they intend on replacing the streetlamp/wire poles that are bending significantly inward to the roadway. Not only does it look tacky, provided the weather is bad enough or something were to clip it, it wouldn't take much for something to bring one down...
Do we have anyone from DPTI or Downer lurking here? Is it possible that the slowdown is because someone noticed the poles are not fit-for-purpose, and the delay is while someone designs and sources new ones?rubberman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:02 amUnlike the old tram poles which were specifically dedigned for the job, these just look like light poles.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:51 pmAnd yet still no word on whether they intend on replacing the streetlamp/wire poles that are bending significantly inward to the roadway. Not only does it look tacky, provided the weather is bad enough or something were to clip it, it wouldn't take much for something to bring one down...
It's not merely the shitty look of the bend, it's whether they are safe. It's also one thing as they are, but what happens when trams go by and the pantographs bounce up and down a bit.
The thicker poles seem ok, but they are very obtrusive. The old poles, designed for trams were slimmer that the new thick poles, but did the job because of thicker steel.
So the line won't actually be open to the public til mid May or so.rooshooter wrote:I asked Dpti today, probably just a standard reply but anyway -
Hi, the City Tram Extension Project is expected to be completed by late April, when the commissioning of the line will occur, followed by driver training.
NoWaewick wrote:So its pretty clear that this was a last ditch effort by Labor to win the seat of Adelaide.
Given we are all fans of trams are we happy with this spur?
Given we know the Libs are only really keen on North Adelaide and the rubbish around the right hand turn. Do you think the money would have been better spent (and perhaps a better vote getter) just going up Oconnell?
So no to being driven by an election.citywatcher wrote:NoWaewick wrote:So its pretty clear that this was a last ditch effort by Labor to win the seat of Adelaide.
Given we are all fans of trams are we happy with this spur?
Given we know the Libs are only really keen on North Adelaide and the rubbish around the right hand turn. Do you think the money would have been better spent (and perhaps a better vote getter) just going up Oconnell?
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The Adelink proposal has been out there for a couple of years now. If the Liberals do something, which is part of a bigger plan, before the next election, can we quote you?Waewick wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:56 pmSo its pretty clear that this was a last ditch effort by Labor to win the seat of Adelaide.
Given we are all fans of trams are we happy with this spur?
Given we know the Libs are only really keen on North Adelaide and the rubbish around the right hand turn. Do you think the money would have been better spent (and perhaps a better vote getter) just going up Oconnell?
quote me on what? I'm curious as to what people think.rubberman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:22 amThe Adelink proposal has been out there for a couple of years now. If the Liberals do something, which is part of a bigger plan, before the next election, can we quote you?Waewick wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:56 pmSo its pretty clear that this was a last ditch effort by Labor to win the seat of Adelaide.
Given we are all fans of trams are we happy with this spur?
Given we know the Libs are only really keen on North Adelaide and the rubbish around the right hand turn. Do you think the money would have been better spent (and perhaps a better vote getter) just going up Oconnell?
I think the spur as it is has some defects. Bendy poles for one. Citadis for two. However, I would give completion of the Citylink a higher priority than the North Adelaide line. The Citylink route actually opens up the South East quadrant of the city to development. North Adelaide residents won't allow any development there. There's a huge difference in development potential in favour of Citylink. Then there’s the ability of people to get off the O-bahn at the tunnel entry and transfer to trams going to the RAH and Adelaide Railway Station in one way, and Hutt Street and King Wm Street South as well. North Adelaide has no such connectivity. Finally, I dislike the bits and pieces approach here. Why not do all of the Citylink, or all of the Prospect line, not bits of one and bits of another? With the bits and pieces approach, we end up with expensive crossovers at the end of each bit. What happens when we get to North Adelaide? Another scissors crossover? Or do we pull the one at Riverside out and move it? Same at East End. Messy.