Yes, by looking at the map in The Advertiser today, it appears that that will be the case. Just on that thought, I remember that when Rann decided to expand upon his development at the Clipsal Site, there were talks of Adelaide's first underground station. Would it be an idea to continue the train tunnel (from where Riverside is) along the current route, underneath Park Terrace (providing a bit of relief at that Intersection) and eventually coming up to the 'Ground Level' later on?steveadl wrote:Also, by a quick look at the images from the plan - it looks like part of the proposal involves putting the railway tracks underground to allow maximum space in the new precinct. Am I correct in thinking this? It's a brilliant idea if that's what they're planning, perhaps even an underground stop just below the stadium as well.
, I don't know what Rann and the Labor Government were even thinking when they refused to consider such a thing. Surely if they are to aim for a population target of 2 million by 2030 (which I have several doubts about), they'd want to have an exciting, vibrant riverfront for all to enjoy!Howie wrote:the ones who pitched it first to Labor (who wouldn't listen) then to the Libs (who have). This was well before the mini-marj-come-rah hospital plan was concocted.
(as time goes by, I begin to understand why ). But I couldn't resist taking a peak at what people had to say:People on Adelaide Now wrote:
I like a master plan, a direction, something to work to in the future. Only problem is state politicians cannot even run this state very effectively as politicians, now they are architects as well. I just hope they paid some real experts for the ideas and it wasn't M H-S working all night with crayons in hand.
Posted by: MR of smallville 4:19pm today
Rann says it is a waste of money etc but hes the one who wants to build a new expensive hospital there instead of redevelop the old one, at least the libs plan would make us look more like a progressive city
Posted by: alf of brighton 4:18pm today
I recall Vickie Chapman saying that it was "absolutely scandalous" that the government wanted to build on that land due to toxic soil and an alledged fault line etc. Now it seems it is ok to build on there because the Libs have an uncosted, knee jerk, adhoc plan. Go figure!
Posted by: Jason of Adelaide 4:10pm today
There's a good chance a casino and a 5-star hotel will be built on the railyards too!!! Skycity have just stated their intention to move out of the railway station! Do it, do it all!! great news- vote libs or perish under Rann...
Posted by: Chief Architect of 4:10pm today
I like the vision put forward - especially as it has the one thing Rann seems to think unecessary - public consultation. Obviously Rann thinks its a pretty good vision too, otherwise he wouldn't be investing personal effort to ridicule it. Rann wants Hamilton-Smith to "show him the money". I want Rann to show me the results of his last 7 years in office (his results I mean, not just a catalogue of good stuff that's happened while Rann has been in office)
Posted by: Trevor of Minlaton 4:09pm today
I reckon I can cost the proposal right now. 1. Sell West Lakes +$350m 2. Sell Ent centre site +$20m 3. Rebuild RAH and save. +$600m 4. Private sector buys ancillary commercial development rights in exchange for paying half the cost of building stadium + $500m 5. No tram required to west lakes, saving +$300 m Total $1.77 billion. And that's not even taking into account the annual benefit from extra jobs and GSt tax coming to government. Mr Rann, what's your problem?
Posted by: Cara Goretti of Adelaide 4:09pm today
election winner right here. Adelaide needs this more than anything else- this will do wonders for tourism, and the image of Adelaide. best of all we hopefully wont have to suffer AAMI stadium anymore. Whatever sport plays at this stadium I will attend- footy, rugby, soccer, cricket!
Posted by: Tim of adelaide 4:08pm today
The Editor of the Advertiser wrote:
ADELAIDE has long been burdened by a deficiency of the facilities expected of a modern city. Much has been made of our outdated and inadequate public transport facilities and roads.
Other major infrastructure issues include a replacement for the ageing AAMI Stadium, a Federation Square-style meeting place, a waterfront precinct including shops and dining and a proper home for the city's science and technology sector.
The Liberal Party's Riverside West plan manages to locate all these on one parcel of parklands at present used only for railyards and largely closed to public access.
The Liberal plan opens the area for a large variety of uses, not just for picnics on lawns but recreation in a far broader sense of the term than when the parklands were devised and people traversed them in horses and buggies.
The plan contains at its heart the politically clever concept that voters can have a reconstructed Royal Adelaide Hospital at its present site, a city stadium and much, much more.
It will appeal, at the same time, to those who fear the northwestern parklands will be dominated by a very large hospital building and therefore be alienated to the public, as well as South Australia's numerous sports fans.
The need for a new stadium close to the CBD has been well established.
Former Crows captain Mark Ricciuto, during a radio commentary on Friday night, acknowledged a city stadium probably was inevitable.
It is time to start planning for this and many of the other measures contained in the Liberal plan.
This might involve some significant public investment, once the present economic downturn eases. This would be entirely reasonable.
One risk for the Liberals is the lack of a clear alternative for a replacement hospital for the ageing RAH. Their three-option plan to rebuild the hospital on its present site is confused and unwieldy.
The new policy does firmly place the northwestern area of the city fringe as the key battleground for the next state election. Whoever successfully argues the case for their vision for this area will have a clear vote winner.
Successful Sevens
THE success of the International Rugby Sevens Adelaide event demonstrates the healthy appetite of the city for quality sport.
Rugby is not a traditional South Australian sport, yet the excitement of Sevens, combined with a lively crowd atmosphere, has drawn patrons.
The Australian Rugby Union is already considering a bid for the 2013 Sevens World Cup, with Adelaide as the host city.
Adelaide Oval hosted two Rugby World Cup matches in 2003, including one involving the Wallabies.
Certainly, the city has demonstrated an ability to host major sporting events beyond the traditional football, cricket and tennis.
It is to be hoped Adelaide can add a Sevens World Cup to the Clipsal 500, Tour Down Under and the International Rugby Sevens Adelaide.
Responsibility for all editorial comment is taken by The Editor, Melvin Mansell, 31 Waymouth St, Adelaide, SA 5000
Row heats up as Libs unveil stadium plan
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/798 ... adium-plan
By Larine Statham
South Australia's Liberal opposition has fired the latest volley in the row over the choice between a new hospital and a sports stadium for a key site.
The Liberals want to use Adelaide's disused rail yards for a new stadium and entertainment precinct, releasing detailed plans on Monday.
The Labor government has already earmarked the site for the Adelaide's new central hospital, which will be called the Royal Adelaide after plans to call it the Marjorie Jackson-Nelson Hospital were dropped.
The issue is expected to be a highlight of the next state election.
"This is one of the best pieces of the River (Torrens)...but it's denied to the public of South Australia because of its ugly rail yards and it's very difficult to access," opposition leader Martin Hamilton-Smith told reporters.
Mr Hamilton-Smith said the proposed entertainment precinct would transform the city.
It would include an amphitheatre, entertainment centre, restaurants, cafes, a science and technology centre as well as the multi-use sports stadium.
It would take between 15 and 20 years to complete with the Liberals refusing to outline what the project would cost, except to say that they would seek financial support from the commonwealth, sporting organisations, private enterprise and taxpayers.
"If you want to ... transform this city, this is the site to do it - it is the wrong place for a hospital," Mr Hamilton-Smith said.
"This is a plan for jobs, this is a plan for a new Adelaide after this global downturn.
"This will be the most significant infrastructure development this city has seen in the modern era."
However, South Australian Premier Mike Rann criticised the lack of costing detail for the Liberal proposal and said the Liberal party had already flagged several different sites as potential locations for the hospital.
"It's been more like an ambulance than a hospital," he told ABC Radio.
"It's had more positions than the Karma Sutra."
Mr Hamilton-Smith said the opposition believed Adelaide would be better served by redeveloping the Royal Adelaide Hospital on its current site.
He also pledged to release detailed costing on all Liberal proposals before the next poll, due in March 2010.
Yes, very true, while the atmosphere in the Telstra Dome is great, the actual viewpoint for the soccer is terrible.mattblack wrote:Just wondering what this stadium will be used for. SANFL hold both Port and Crow licences and its already said it wont support a new stadium, a telsra dome style stadium is no good for soccer, thats why their building a purpose built stadium in Melbourne. Looks like the Adelaide uni footy team will be its main residents.
Row heats up as Libs unveil stadium plan
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/798 ... adium-plan
By Larine Statham
South Australia's Liberal opposition has fired the latest volley in the row over the choice between a new hospital and a sports stadium for a key site.
The Liberals want to use Adelaide's disused rail yards for a new stadium and entertainment precinct, releasing detailed plans on Monday.
The Labor government has already earmarked the site for the Adelaide's new central hospital, which will be called the Royal Adelaide after plans to call it the Marjorie Jackson-Nelson Hospital were dropped.
The issue is expected to be a highlight of the next state election.
"This is one of the best pieces of the River (Torrens)...but it's denied to the public of South Australia because of its ugly rail yards and it's very difficult to access," opposition leader Martin Hamilton-Smith told reporters.
Mr Hamilton-Smith said the proposed entertainment precinct would transform the city.
It would include an amphitheatre, entertainment centre, restaurants, cafes, a science and technology centre as well as the multi-use sports stadium.
It would take between 15 and 20 years to complete with the Liberals refusing to outline what the project would cost, except to say that they would seek financial support from the commonwealth, sporting organisations, private enterprise and taxpayers.
"If you want to ... transform this city, this is the site to do it - it is the wrong place for a hospital," Mr Hamilton-Smith said.
"This is a plan for jobs, this is a plan for a new Adelaide after this global downturn.
"This will be the most significant infrastructure development this city has seen in the modern era."
However, South Australian Premier Mike Rann criticised the lack of costing detail for the Liberal proposal and said the Liberal party had already flagged several different sites as potential locations for the hospital.
"It's been more like an ambulance than a hospital," he told ABC Radio.
"It's had more positions than the Karma Sutra."
Mr Hamilton-Smith said the opposition believed Adelaide would be better served by redeveloping the Royal Adelaide Hospital on its current site.
He also pledged to release detailed costing on all Liberal proposals before the next poll, due in March 2010.
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