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Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:40 am
by stumpjumper
SRW, I'd be wary of citing one of Anne Moran's microphone opps as an indication of anything.
As for the Port, the government has done more by actions and omissions to cruel the Port's chances than any other factor.
Try reading the older Port thread here...Howie's Newport Quays thread at
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... p?f=8&t=70
Despite the '1.2 billion Port redevelopment project' being the product of 'years of planning' by government and private planners, no-one ever planned what might happen to Harts Mill and the adjacent Adelaide Milling Company sites, among a number of sites within the supposedly exhaustively planned area. It was all a mirage, like the 4,000 construction jobs for at least a decade at Newport Quays, promised but which have evaporated along with the buyers, and the developers, it seems.
Action not whingeing is required. For a start - a proper audit of what's in the Port and who owns it should be followed by a hard look at options not just by Foley's office but by some practical, creative planning consultants who aren't related to or beholden to the ALP. A good look around the world at how it should be done might help too. Mystic Seaport would be a good start. And some serious funding from the government to try to sort out the mess they have largely created.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:03 pm
by skyliner
skyliner wrote:I had heard of this ship some time ago - would be a fantastic addition to Pt Adelaide due to all the reasons on their website. It's the kind oif thing that would draw 'ancilliary' activities and even cause a threshold to be reached which would keep the historic side moving, active and attractive to all who come to the Port. Clippers are VERY impressive ships, even when restored but not fully operational. They say it is one of only two left - the other being the Cutty Sark. I heard it had a huge fire and was badly damaged not so long ago.
It seems a big call to get it here - especially in the face of the opponents who want to fully restore the ship. BUT, as with Stumpjumper, I believe we have a good chance of getting it, esp. if the likes of Rann get behind it - this would have a certain media aspect that would appeal to him.
SA - STATE ON THE MOVE
It seems that Sunderland, the competing place to get the Adelaide, has pulled out, leaving us to take the prize - if we can raise enough funds. Must be done before the end of May or we don't get it either.
SA - STATE ON THE MOVE
Re: Trucks holding back Port revival
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:57 pm
by Straze
THE large volume of trucks taking shortcuts through the town centre is the major block holding back the Port’s revival, the Newport Quays consortium says.
Newport Quays spokesman Todd Brown urged a Port Adelaide Enfield Chamber of Commerce forum last week to push authorities to redirect the trucks, saying it was a “no brainer”.
“One of our principal objectives is to get the trucks out of the town centre ... it’s one of the major reasons the town centre precinct doesn’t work,” Mr Brown told the forum.
His comments echo the Portside Messenger Time to Act campaign, which supports Port traders in their calls to remove trucks from Commercial Rd and St Vincent St east, to help boost local business activity.
Mr Brown urged the 40-strong audience at Newport Quay’s Portobello restaurant to take up the issue with local MP and State TreasurerKevin Foley to create “ a groundswell of support”.
“(Removing trucks) will add a lot of value to the ability of the town centre to regenerate, and on the back of what we as a developer are doing, all these little things will add up.”
Mr Brown said he planned to meet “the relevant authorities” in the coming weeks to tackle the issue.
Chamber of Commerce president Vaughan Martin said the group was also preparing a representation for the Transport Department and had contacted the Port-Enfield Council for support.
“The chamber is hearing the same message from residents, property owners, business owners and visitors who are concerned about this issue,” he said.
Article from Portside Messenger:
http://portside-messenger.whereilive.com.au/
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:34 pm
by The Scooter Guy
What are those buildings in the background here? One of them is like the shuttered Port Admiral Hotel!
EDIT: Found some pics of the PHH before & after closure!
http://www.gdaypubs.com.au/SA/adelaide/ ... laide.html
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:43 pm
by Xaragmata
[quote="The Scooter Guy"]
What are those buildings in the background here? One of them is like the shuttered Port Admiral Hotel!
The semi is turning right into St Vincent St from Comm Rd, so the Central Building is on the right, and Toop & Toop is on the left.
Central Building - being restored & converted to affordable accommodation
Toop & Toop
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:39 pm
by monotonehell
Xaragmata wrote:...
Just have to say, "Tick Tax" is an inspired business name pun.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:38 pm
by SRW
stumpjumper wrote:SRW, I'd be wary of citing one of Anne Moran's microphone opps as an indication of anything.
I don't believe I ever did so? In any event, it turned out that the Renew Adelaide initiative is a community undertaking assisted by, but not dependent upon, the council. And I expect to see much more from them (Ianto Ware and Brigid Noone) yet.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:45 pm
by skyliner
Dev'ts for City of Adelaide Project proposal - check out city of Adelaide site /program/Pt Adelaide Sites/Cruickshank Corner. This looks a reeal international tourist drawcard - tall and with very high visibality, direct historical significance, open to interactive observation and cafes etc etc. Ships of this nature become significant drawcards in other cities - Eg the Warrior, Cuty Sark etc etc. Would be a strong catalyst to get Pt Adelaide on the map as it were.
SA - STATE ON THE MOVE
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:07 pm
by Straze
I have read the - Port Adelaide Centre Vision and Framework on the Port Adelaide/Enfield council website, i have to say i like it, the vision is well planned out and has great elements. The vision includes revitalizing the Port Adelaide regional centre but still retaining the historic nature of the town. Check it out on the Port Adelaide/Enfield council website:
http://www.portenf.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=1708.
- Commercial Road, Port Adelaide (current)
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- Commercial Road, Port Adelaide (vision artist impression)
- portcroad2.JPG (45.9 KiB) Viewed 7251 times
I know it is just an artist impression but i am sure we are not going to have the MAN SL200 buses still driving along Commercial Road, Port Adelaide.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:36 pm
by Xaragmata
Port Mall - reconstruction of Quebec Mall:
http://www.xaragmata.mooo.com/album/ade ... index.html
Restoration of Central Building should be complete by end of year, with 9 shops available for lease.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:45 pm
by AtD
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:01 pm
by The Scooter Guy
AtD wrote:
The link doesn't work
Here's a working one:
http://xaragmata.cable.nu/index.html
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:10 pm
by Xaragmata
AtD wrote:
The link doesn't work
try this one - sometimes the nameservers fail...
http://www.xaragmata.mooo.com/album/ade ... index.html
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:32 pm
by Port Adelaide Fan
Reborn Central Buildings to aid homeless youth
PORT Adelaide’s landmark Central Buildings will open for business before the end of the year.
The revamp of the Port’s second oldest building, at the intersection of St Vincent St and Commercial Rd, is part of a $10 million joint initiative between the AFL Players Association, AFL Foundation and the State and Federal governments, to house 23 youths at risk of homelessness.
To be known as The Ladder Project, it will integrate secure accommodation with mentoring and training programs in partnership with the AFL, based on the “Foyer” model already well-established in Britain and France.
Project officer Andrew Crowell said leasing agents for nine street-level shop-fronts would be appointed this month, while residents were expected to move in once building work was complete by November.
more:
http://portside-messenger.whereilive.co ... o-success/
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:51 am
by Xaragmata
The Port Mall frontage to St Vincent St continues to be upgraded, together with adajcent shops including Brasserie Moustache by the pedestrian crossing:
