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Part of the solution is about doing a Kennett trick and that is spend about 1billion dollars revamping the city and building meeting points (ala fed square, docklands, southgate etc etc) work on the PT system and make visible connections to all our entertainment precincts by giving people a reason to walk around the city.

stelaras wrote:Part of the solution is about doing a Kennett trick and that is spend about 1billion dollars revamping the city and building meeting points (ala fed square, docklands, southgate etc etc) work on the PT system and make visible connections to all our entertainment precincts by giving people a reason to walk around the city.

so buy doing a kennett trick you mean steal other cities major sporting events?

Cruise Control wrote:

stelaras wrote:Part of the solution is about doing a Kennett trick and that is spend about 1billion dollars revamping the city and building meeting points (ala fed square, docklands, southgate etc etc) work on the PT system and make visible connections to all our entertainment precincts by giving people a reason to walk around the city.

so buy doing a kennett rick you mean steal other cities major sporting events?

NO i mean spend 1 billion dollars building up the city...with physical structures, cultural walks, develop the riverbanks, build a fed square like area , pour money into the arts and cultural scenes buy expanding the state museum, arts centre, redevelop the state theatre so we can have a world class venue....and god knows what else!

Under the 7.5 years of kennettism, 1billion dollars was spent "beautyfing" and "culturifing" the city to its current form.

It must be more than 1 billion...
Fed Square's cost blowout put it costing more than 400 million by itself...
and where are we going to find said money?

you guys are right we dont need a desal plant we should instead build a new football ground, copy federation square and extend the tram line to the moon

stelaras wrote:

Cruise Control wrote:

stelaras wrote:Part of the solution is about doing a Kennett trick and that is spend about 1billion dollars revamping the city and building meeting points (ala fed square, docklands, southgate etc etc) work on the PT system and make visible connections to all our entertainment precincts by giving people a reason to walk around the city.

so buy doing a kennett rick you mean steal other cities major sporting events?

NO i mean spend 1 billion dollars building up the city...with physical structures, cultural walks, develop the riverbanks, build a fed square like area , pour money into the arts and cultural scenes buy expanding the state museum, arts centre, redevelop the state theatre so we can have a world class venue....and god knows what else!

Under the 7.5 years of kennettism, 1billion dollars was spent "beautyfing" and "culturifing" the city to its current form.

The South Australian Museum has just had a huge revamp, and is currently getting another makeover. Quite alot of money has been spent on the Festival Centre such as updating facilities and creating new programs and activities such as the new sunday art & craft market.

Though I'm sick of hearing we should have a Fed Square or be like Melbourne. Sure its great, but we need to develop our own central point and have our own style not copying something our rival cousin has created. Really we should be looking for ideas overseas, even cities around our size that have created a central point for its city.

Forget Melbourne - look overseas!, i say

Spend $500mil working with industry and irrigators to increase water efficiency and recycling and you don't need to build a desal plant. Water and efficiency audits always uncover operational inefficiencies which allow companies to be more competitive and improve productivity. The extra tax revenue will soon pay back the investment which can then be used for rejuvenation of the city. Companies must be assisted to work smarter instead of the govt spending all our money on infrastructure which supports inefficient work practices.

urban wrote:Spend $500mil working with industry and irrigators to increase water efficiency and recycling and you don't need to build a desal plant. Water and efficiency audits always uncover operational inefficiencies which allow companies to be more competitive and improve productivity. The extra tax revenue will soon pay back the investment which can then be used for rejuvenation of the city. Companies must be assisted to work smarter instead of the govt spending all our money on infrastructure which supports inefficient work practices.

dont forget about the leaky system run buy SA water

Guys this might be a silly thing to say, but I reckon the current drought is the 'drought we had to have', to finally get things to change in this country in terms of how we use water, and I think its finally getting through to people. Rain water tanks for each dwelling, reusing grey water, pipelines sending sewerage water for gardening use in the parklands and for Virginia growers, limiting sprinkler use and more drip fed irrigation, catching excess stormwater for future use, are not just projects that we should be thinking of for the future, but projects that should have been done years ago. These projects would have far more effect that a desal plant. And if we build a desal plant which are quite expensive, it would probably get finished in a year with higher than average rainfall and we might be scratching out heads as to why we did it. Yeah a desal plant would be a good safety fall back, but demand side technolgies/efficiencies are the way to go. Just look at what they do in Israel, for example, and see how much they can do with so little water

In my previous post, I stated that young people hate living here.

The reason for this, in my opinion is strongly influenced by our extreme consumerist culture. Generation Y have become such drones to the market, that they have become greedy, selfish and lacking in patience. The young people of today want everything now. In addition they need constant entertainment because people have forgotten how to entertain themselves. As a result, people instead of being grateful for the fact that in Adelaide we have electricity, paved roads, no wars, no fear of being shot, jobs, free healthcare... the young people now instead focus on materialistic things such as the fact that Adelaide does not have a Kripy Kremes, or the fact that there aren't 1 million bars open 24 hours a day.

Maybe I've been spending too long studying psychology at uni, but what do other think?

If I have a point, then this problem, can only be remedied by sexing up the city, but also by other strategies aimed at making people less fake and materialistic. I think that banning advertisement aimed at children would make a difference (however this arguement is for a new thread).

Will wrote:In my previous post, I stated that young people hate living here.

The reason for this, in my opinion is strongly influenced by our extreme consumerist culture. Generation Y have become such drones to the market, that they have become greedy, selfish and lacking in patience. The young people of today want everything now. In addition they need constant entertainment because people have forgotten how to entertain themselves. As a result, people instead of being grateful for the fact that in Adelaide we have electricity, paved roads, no wars, no fear of being shot, jobs, free healthcare... the young people now instead focus on materialistic things such as the fact that Adelaide does not have a Kripy Kremes, or the fact that there aren't 1 million bars open 24 hours a day.

Maybe I've been spending too long studying psychology at uni, but what do other think?

If I have a point, then this problem, can only be remedied by sexing up the city, but also by other strategies aimed at making people less fake and materialistic. I think that banning advertisement aimed at children would make a difference (however this arguement is for a new thread).

A few others here have said good things, but Will has finally said the truth! Something I wanted to respond to keepadelaidealive, but it is better coming from someone who is in psychology. Wait till these young people mature, become middle-aged or retired, then their way of thinking changes dramatically. Yes, we do need to cater for all age groups, we need to keep as many people happy as possible. Give the young ones employment, opportunities and entertainment and they will stay. If they want too much then you can't stop them from leaving. Today it is much easier to travel the world. The oldies should also be respected and their needs catered for. They are wealthy and form a substantial part of our economy. We need a balanced plan and someone who can put it into practice.

Cheers

Well said Will, I couldn't agree with you more!

You are essentially correct Will.... but we live in Australia hence why Gen Y take our lifestyle and stystem for granted. and when they go for a holiday to melb or syd or QLD, they see the stuff they have there and we dont.... and form a somewhat negative view.

You cant go comparing Adelaide with Baghdad .... but you can compare Adelaide and another Australian city.

Pistol78 wrote:It must be more than 1 billion...
Fed Square's cost blowout put it costing more than 400 million by itself...
and where are we going to find said money?

he was quoted the other day on a report that he spent 1billion on "culturefying" the city

crawf wrote: Though I'm sick of hearing we should have a Fed Square or be like Melbourne. Sure its great, but we need to develop our own central point and have our own style not copying something our rival cousin has created. Really we should be looking for ideas overseas, even cities around our size that have created a central point for its city.

Forget Melbourne - look overseas!, i say

When i talk about a Fed Square type of gathering ground, i don't mean we pinch their ideas per se and build them here. Im talking about creating an area large enough to do something similar but unique for Adelaide (see my post on whats next for victoria square).. Point is most cultural based cities of the world have a large meeting ground where people meet!