[PRO] Buckingham Arms | 10lvs | $150m

[SouthAussie94]

What a downgrade. Town houses on a prime CBD fringe site? Ridiculous

[Mpol02]

More Adelaide trash.

[[Shuz]]

I'm happy with the outcome. Much better than before.

[baytram366]

Personally, when comparing the two proposals, the first one was a much better use of the site, location and the overall size of the land. The poxy townhouses just don't cut it at this location and its a shame that a big development may never go ahead here. Around the inner city fringe on main roads, larger scale developments should be the norm.

[timtam20292]

The townhouses look nice but I agree in saying what a downgrade it was. Original was perfect.

[ChillyPhilly]

From $150m for 180 apartments across ten levels to...

New plans for a 29-townhouse development behind the historic Buckingham Arms Hotel have been lodged in a dramatic downscaling of earlier contentious plans.

Citify has confirmed it submitted revised plans for the 29 three-storey townhouses with Walkerville council in the latest bid to develop the site.

Each would have three bedrooms and two bathrooms, with two internally accessible car parks, with the maximum building height of 10.5m.

Poor outcome.

[Patrick_27]

From $150m for 180 apartments across ten levels to...

New plans for a 29-townhouse development behind the historic Buckingham Arms Hotel have been lodged in a dramatic downscaling of earlier contentious plans.

Citify has confirmed it submitted revised plans for the 29 three-storey townhouses with Walkerville council in the latest bid to develop the site.

Each would have three bedrooms and two bathrooms, with two internally accessible car parks, with the maximum building height of 10.5m.

Poor outcome.

Hell, anyone who has been on this forum long enough knows my feelings around overdevelopment, but even I resoundingly agree this is the worst outcome for the site. The first proposal might be seen as out of scale for the area, but it was befitting for the prime location that it is. Just goes to show that Walkerville residents are happy to see mid-rise developments take over Kent Town area and the Parade but don't want a bar of it in their area. This proposal wasn't going to see the aesthetic of any nearby mansions of heritage compromised, so what's the issue?

[dbl96]

Personally, when comparing the two proposals, the first one was a much better use of the site, location and the overall size of the land. The poxy townhouses just don't cut it at this location and its a shame that a big development may never go ahead here. Around the inner city fringe on main roads, larger scale developments should be the norm.

If we want this to be the case, we need to make sure that the zoning permits it to happen.

I think that 8-15 stories is an appropriate height for developments around the ring road (except where heritage is a concern), but the fact is that along much of the route, zoning currently caps heights at 3-6 stories. This development was over-scale relative to the zoning, which clearly had an effect on the failure to secure approval.

We need a more realistic assessment of what are reasonable zoning heights for buildings on the city fringe. When the re-zoning was first done a decade or so ago, they were starting from a very low base (max zoning heights of 2-3 levels), so it was a lot for the existing community to get used to, especially in influential areas like Walkerville. But now everyone has had some time to get used to the situation, heights could reasonably be increased somewhat, and if the reasons given by the developer are to be believed, this might also make more developments viable.

[gnrc_louis]

New plans: https://www.indaily.com.au/news/adelaid ... ngham-arms

[dbl96]

New plans: https://www.indaily.com.au/news/adelaid ... ngham-arms

So much uglier than the original. How is this a better outcome?

[Dvious]

The original proposal was dogshit.

I dont think this is the best design outcome, but it is far far better than the two previous proposals.

[Mpol02]

Curved edges make it nicer but not by a huge amount. All depends on glazing. Alot of metro developments do well in this regard so fingers crossed

[dbl96]

The original proposal was dogshit.

I dont think this is the best design outcome, but it is far far better than the two previous proposals.

The previous two proposals were more timeless, with classical influenced architecture with straight lines and neutral colours which blended better with the old pub building.

The curved lines of this new one clash with the old pub. And it looks like it will probably have that stupid orange cladding which is all in vogue the last few years despite fading to look awful after a couple of years in the sun.

I don’t think it really addresses the massing issue either - if anything it looks more bulky now. In the previous version there would have been taller walls next to the street, but it looked like separate smaller buildings. Whereas this is now just one giant lump of building.

[rev]

Reminds me of Palais Apartments on the corner of Frome/North Terrace.

[abc]

they both look like shit

the newer one looks like Hungry Jacks carpark in Pulteney Street (you'll never unsee that image now)