[COM] Rundle Place | 76m | 15lvls | Retail & Office

[monotonehell]

Where's Mrs Slocombe's pussy?

I dont know where to post this, but what is happening with that retail development on the 2nd level of Regent Arcade, Rundle Mall end. Nothing has been going on there for months and months. Anyone know why its stalled?

Well you posted it in the right place, because I know for a fact Harris Scarfe are looking at putting a temporary store in there (and probably another elsewhere too in the CBD) while they redevelop

Nice but very small. I guess they'll have a split mini-store. Menswear, kids clothes, bedding, electrical, kitchenwear and etc in the Regent Arcade. And rent out the convention centre for Women's fashion

[Omicron]

Where's Mrs Slocombe's pussy?

I dont know where to post this, but what is happening with that retail development on the 2nd level of Regent Arcade, Rundle Mall end. Nothing has been going on there for months and months. Anyone know why its stalled?

Well you posted it in the right place, because I know for a fact Harris Scarfe are looking at putting a temporary store in there (and probably another elsewhere too in the CBD) while they redevelop

Nice but very small. I guess they'll have a split mini-store. Menswear, kids clothes, bedding, electrical, kitchenwear and etc in the Regent Arcade. And rent out the convention centre for Women's fashion

Oh, joy - thousands of square metres of oversized blouses and wide-leg trousers.

[skyliner]

Now Omi, surely that could'nt be true

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[Ben]

The outstanding matters will be brought up in Thursdays DAC meeting. It still looks unlikely to recieve the go ahead at this stage as they still have issues with the heights of the canopies facing Grenfell St and Rundle Mall.... apparently they are not in line with the adjacant buildings and will cause massive ammenty issues for pedestrians

http://www.dac.sa.gov.au/index.cfm?obje ... 0F2030D46A

[Mants]

The outstanding matters will be brought up in Thursdays DAC meeting. It still looks unlikely to recieve the go ahead at this stage as they still have issues with the heights of the canopies facing Grenfell St and Rundle Mall.... apparently they are not in line with the adjacant buildings and will cause massive ammenty issues for pedestrians

http://www.dac.sa.gov.au/index.cfm?obje ... 0F2030D46A

i doubt 99% of pedestrians will care

[Ben]

The outstanding matters will be brought up in Thursdays DAC meeting. It still looks unlikely to recieve the go ahead at this stage as they still have issues with the heights of the canopies facing Grenfell St and Rundle Mall.... apparently they are not in line with the adjacant buildings and will cause massive ammenty issues for pedestrians

http://www.dac.sa.gov.au/index.cfm?obje ... 0F2030D46A

i doubt 99% of pedestrians will care

I'd say 99.999999%

[pushbutton]

Well how hard could it be to make sure the canopy lines up with adjacent buildings? I would have thought one need not be much of an architect to think of something as obvious as that!

I wonder if they remembered to include a roof in the design, so that the rain doesn't get in and spoil all those oversized blouses and wide-legged trousers.

Call me sarcastic if you will, but jeez, it amazes me that we have to deal with such incompetence all the time.

This project should be well underway by now.

[Brando]

Councillor's Harris Scarfe proposal rejected

AN ADELAIDE City councillor has delivered alternate plans for the redevelopment of the Rundle Mall Harris Scarfe complex.

Practicing heritage architect and councillor Sandy Wilkinson presented the drawings to a council meeting last night, claiming the historic facades can be maintained for a fraction of the building's total cost.

He failed to win support to have them formally presented to the developer, Gandel Group.

The council has been locked in long-running negotiations with the developer over the fate of several historic facades slated for demolition to make way for a $150 million 19-storey retail and office tower.

As part owner of the site, the council has the rare power to block the development, which already has approval from the state's Development Assessment Commission.

Councillor Wilkinson said maintaining the facades would cost around $1 million and require the developers to slash around 1000sqm of retail space from the total 30,000sqm.

"We see with the Myer centre, how dated that now looks," Mr Wilkinson said.

"If we retain the original buildings here, it (Harris Scarfe) will never date.

`'When council says we would like to encourage the retention of these buildings, people say `well, how would you do that?' and the reason why I did this was to make it plain as day how easily, in design terms, the facades would be to incorporate.

"The investigations I did in terms of the impacts of the floor areas and costs was to debunk the thoughts that people might have that it would cost far too much, it would cost millions to save the facades."

Councillor Francis Wong said the council risked gaining a nation-wide reputation for being anti-development if it continued to meddle in large-scale city developments.

"If we continue to do these sorts of things as a council, telling the architect, investors or developers what to do, then we will have a lot of problems in the future," he said.

"We want the city in the design that we want, but we also have to remember they are going to pay the money.

"They can go to other cities in Australia as well, they don't have to come here to Adelaide."

Councillor Ralph Clarke said he supported retaining heritage, but it would be "micro-management to the extreme' for the council to thrust alternate plans on the developer.

"I too want to see the retention of the Harris Scarfe facade and so too the laneway," he said.

"But this is micro-management to the extreme and I don't think it actually behoves the council to do this."

The developer has previously rejected a cash offer from the council's $1 million heritage incentives scheme to retain the facade.

The council is expected to hold a confidential meeting tonight to further discuss the issue.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 82,00.html

[Omicron]

Bother, I like it. Especially the laneways down the sides, for exactly the same reasons as the Myer Centre's North Tce heritage frontage being by far its most appealing.

And yes, Cr. Wong is right - the developers will crack the shits because a government body is meddling with private interests, and yes, I'm not a huge fan of government getting itself too far involved in things, and yes, I doubt very much it could be done to the standard befitting of this development for $1 million, but damn it to hell - Cr. Wilkinson has come up with an alternative that lives and breathes character and smells like steak should and goes like sunshine and rainbows and keeps that little bit of higgledy-piggledy that's so wonderfully Adelaide and Rundle Mall and it doesn't look like a godawful try-hard series of boxes and artificial laneways foisted upon my poor eyes in the original plan.

There, I said it.

[Wayno]

There, I said it.

lol - you crack me up.

I like it too - but the council-meddling-coefficient is way too high in this instance...

[rhino]

There, I said it.

lol - you crack me up.

I like it too - but the council-meddling-coefficient is way too high in this instance...

Agree 100%

[Will]

Councillor Wilkinson only has himself to blame for this. He reminds me of the boy who cried wolf. He has cried wolf so many times that now when there actually is a wolf nobody cares.

Shame really, because his plan is actually quite nice and much better than the boring facade proposed. We should remember the mistake of the Myer redevelopment.

It is also imperative that the ACC hurries up in its plan to add new buildings to its heritage list. There are many buildings in the CBD, including those due to be demolished for this development which are worthy of preservation. I don't want Adelaide to become the next Perth.

[skyliner]

Bother again! I like it too! (with awnings along the laneways though). But what is it with 3 storeys facing the main thoroughfare of Adelaide. Surely the upper levels can be brought closer and the spot actually appear incorporated and sympathetic overall.

Concerning dating architecture - most obvious from the 1960's era - not old enough to preserve and yet few care if it goes.The ageless/timeless/classic factor is generally not there. Harris Scarf's Rundle facade IMHO does not carry this factor. But, bother AGAIN, I still like the general concept proposed, if not at the cost of the proposed development - leaving us with 'Grace Bros' of Adelaide and scaring another developer away.

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[crawf]

The Harris Scarfe facade is nice but I don't believe its worth keeping, though I do like the idea of keeping the facades along Francis St & Lindes Lane.

However if they are going to keep the Harris Scarfe facade, then make the whole complex the same height and it least make the complex look modern and inspiring. Sandy Wilkinson's plan looks plain and boring

[pushbutton]

It's actually not a bad plan, but it's way too late in the process for such ideas now.

It's like when people were trying to save John Martins just months before it was demolished. The plans had already been drawn up (at great cost) and the decision had already been made.

I'm not arguing that the John Martins building was worth keeping, just making the point that if anyone wanted to propose that the facade of Harris Scarfe be kept, they should have done so much earlier in the process.

The developer has now already decided what they want to build and has spend a great deal of time and money designing it. Now is not the time to be telling them to scrap the plans and build something else. Now is the time to let the developer get started on demolition and construction, before they do get scared away and go build something somewhere else!

This development was meant to start in May. It's now almost August and the council are still bickering like infants as usual. Pathetic!