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Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:09 pm
by timtam20292
I personally wish those small buildings in front of the convention centre on riverside would be demolished. I understand what they are used for but they're just an eyesore.
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 8:18 pm
by floplo
A fun guessing game:
From The Advertiser article on the Marriott GPO hotel:
The world’s largest hotel chain has signed a deal to establish a third hotel in Adelaide as it prepares to open its flagship Marriott brand in the historic GPO building in August.
Marriott International will also open a Westin hotel on North Tce in the city’s first skyscraper, but details on the third brand set for the CBD remain closely guarded.
“We have three signed deals here in Adelaide – the Marriott, Westin and another one on the way,” Sean Hunt, area vice president Australia, New Zealand and Pacific, said."
Anyone have any guesses what their third site could be?
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 8:24 pm
by gnrc_louis
floplo wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 8:18 pm
A fun guessing game:
From The Advertiser article on the Marriott GPO hotel:
The world’s largest hotel chain has signed a deal to establish a third hotel in Adelaide as it prepares to open its flagship Marriott brand in the historic GPO building in August.
Marriott International will also open a Westin hotel on North Tce in the city’s first skyscraper, but details on the third brand set for the CBD remain closely guarded.
“We have three signed deals here in Adelaide – the Marriott, Westin and another one on the way,” Sean Hunt, area vice president Australia, New Zealand and Pacific, said."
Anyone have any guesses what their third site could be?
The Wakefield street site next to the commonwealth bank building? That got sold recently and already has DA for a hotel.
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 9:55 pm
by Patrick_27
gnrc_louis wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 8:24 pm
floplo wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 8:18 pm
A fun guessing game:
From The Advertiser article on the Marriott GPO hotel:
The world’s largest hotel chain has signed a deal to establish a third hotel in Adelaide as it prepares to open its flagship Marriott brand in the historic GPO building in August.
Marriott International will also open a Westin hotel on North Tce in the city’s first skyscraper, but details on the third brand set for the CBD remain closely guarded.
“We have three signed deals here in Adelaide – the Marriott, Westin and another one on the way,” Sean Hunt, area vice president Australia, New Zealand and Pacific, said."
Anyone have any guesses what their third site could be?
The Wakefield street site next to the commonwealth bank building? That got sold recently and already has DA for a hotel.
Perhaps the Market Square development?
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 10:09 pm
by Smithy84
The hotel operator for the markets has already been announced.
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 10:16 pm
by Ben
Could be the Wright Street hotel which is about to start. I would guess their Aloft brand which was signed to open at cancelled new mayfield.
Otherwise I can’t think of any other approved hotels that haven’t signed an operator other than SA Tower.
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 7:38 am
by Smithy84
I suppose the building doesn’t have to be approved… Keystone Tower isn’t approved yet.
The 100m+ proposal on Franklin Street has a hotel component from memory. That could be a possibility too.
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 4:05 pm
by Prodical
Three office entrances being upgraded around Flinders and KWS. There would be lots of competition for getting old office stock leased
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 9:26 pm
by floplo
Smithy84 wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 7:38 am
I suppose the building doesn’t have to be approved… Keystone Tower isn’t approved yet.
The 100m+ proposal on Franklin Street has a hotel component from memory. That could be a possibility too.
Actually the 'Grote&Gouger' development (the former post sorting area) developed by Gurner has supposedly a 220 room hotel and is SCAP approved. Given the scale of that development Marriott might be interested (not sure which of their brands though).
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 11:22 am
by Patrick_27
Article in today’s Tiser regarding extensive upgrades to the ‘Black Stump’ on Grenfell, apparently upgrades have already been made to the foyer entrance and further internal upgrades are to follow, with a complete upgrade/replacement of the external facade still to come. All part of the new owners vision to lure more tenants to the building. Frankly, that last part really bothers me. Office and apartment buildings need internal modernisation, sure. But the Black Stump is one of those rare instances where externally the building has timeless architectural merit to it. Looking at it, you could be mistaken for thinking it was built in the late-90s, even though it was built in the late-70s. These cheap, re-clad jobs of buildings that really don’t require it do my head in. Hell, I’d much rather the new owners of the old Telstra building on Pirie Street rework the upper exterior of that, there’s a building that looks older than it is.
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 11:26 am
by gnrc_louis
Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:22 am
Article in today’s Tiser regarding extensive upgrades to the ‘Black Stump’ on Grenfell, apparently upgrades have already been made to the foyer entrance and further internal upgrades are to follow, with a complete upgrade/replacement of the external facade still to come. All part of the new owners vision to lure more tenants to the building. Frankly, that last part really bothers me. Office and apartment buildings need internal modernisation, sure. But the Black Stump is one of those rare instances where externally the building has timeless architectural merit to it. Looking at it, you could be mistaken for thinking it was built in the late-90s, even though it was built in the late-70s. These cheap, re-clad jobs of buildings that really don’t require it do my head in. Hell, I’d much rather the new owners of the old Telstra building on Pirie Street rework the upper exterior of that, there’s a building that looks older than it is.
Agreed - the Black Stump is a great example of the mid-century internationalist style, I really hope they don't fuck it up.
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 11:30 am
by abc
gnrc_louis wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:26 am
Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:22 am
Article in today’s Tiser regarding extensive upgrades to the ‘Black Stump’ on Grenfell, apparently upgrades have already been made to the foyer entrance and further internal upgrades are to follow, with a complete upgrade/replacement of the external facade still to come. All part of the new owners vision to lure more tenants to the building. Frankly, that last part really bothers me. Office and apartment buildings need internal modernisation, sure. But the Black Stump is one of those rare instances where externally the building has timeless architectural merit to it. Looking at it, you could be mistaken for thinking it was built in the late-90s, even though it was built in the late-70s. These cheap, re-clad jobs of buildings that really don’t require it do my head in. Hell, I’d much rather the new owners of the old Telstra building on Pirie Street rework the upper exterior of that, there’s a building that looks older than it is.
Agreed - the Black Stump is a great example of the mid-century internationalist style, I really hope they don't fuck it up.
it has a twin in Wellington NZ.
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 12:09 pm
by EBG
The exterior cladding on the black stump building has been replaced about 12 months ago.
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 4:47 pm
by SRW
Wasn't it replaced because of combustible cladding?
Re: News & Discussion: General CBD Development
Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 5:11 pm
by Ben
Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:22 am
Article in today’s Tiser regarding extensive upgrades to the ‘Black Stump’ on Grenfell, apparently upgrades have already been made to the foyer entrance and further internal upgrades are to follow, with a complete upgrade/replacement of the external facade still to come. All part of the new owners vision to lure more tenants to the building. Frankly, that last part really bothers me. Office and apartment buildings need internal modernisation, sure. But the Black Stump is one of those rare instances where externally the building has timeless architectural merit to it. Looking at it, you could be mistaken for thinking it was built in the late-90s, even though it was built in the late-70s. These cheap, re-clad jobs of buildings that really don’t require it do my head in. Hell, I’d much rather the new owners of the old Telstra building on Pirie Street rework the upper exterior of that, there’s a building that looks older than it is.
Yes the cladding replacement is already completed and was only done due to fire proofing. It looks essentially the same.