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Re: Historic red rattler tram heads back to Glenelg

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:00 am
by Vee
ghs wrote:I am not sure if Moseley square is such a good area to put it, I like the open grassed
area near the jetty. However I believe that somewhere closer to the heat of Glenelg would
have been good, maybe near The Beachouse.
I'm not sure Wigley Reserve is the right spot for the 'Red Rattler' tram and I agree that Moseley Square does not have sufficient space. The Buffalo restaurant suffers from being too far removed from the high pedestrian traffic.

The open grassed area near the jetty needs to stay open to preserve the view and also accommodate the crowds in summer. Closer to the Beachouse sounds better but this area is now getting crowded with the addition of the kiddy ferris wheel.
Any other suggestions?

Re: Historic red rattler tram heads back to Glenelg

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:37 pm
by skyliner
Vee wrote:
ghs wrote:I am not sure if Moseley square is such a good area to put it, I like the open grassed
area near the jetty. However I believe that somewhere closer to the heat of Glenelg would
have been good, maybe near The Beachouse.
I'm not sure Wigley Reserve is the right spot for the 'Red Rattler' tram and I agree that Moseley Square does not have sufficient space. The Buffalo restaurant suffers from being too far removed from the high pedestrian traffic.

The open grassed area near the jetty needs to stay open to preserve the view and also accommodate the crowds in summer. Closer to the Beachouse sounds better but this area is now getting crowded with the addition of the kiddy ferris wheel.
Any other suggestions?
In relation to the bold section - this will be the difficulty for the tram as well. I prefer Moseley SQ.

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Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:46 pm
by jk1237
what is with the Glenelg forshore and parts of the beach always being fenced off and being dug up every single friggin year. Its becoming a joke. I was there about 6 weeks ago and the whole forshore between the jetty and the state proclamation memorial thing was dug up and fenced off, it didn;t really surprise me as this seems to be a prerequisite of the Glenelg forshore every winter.

Went down there today and apart from the walkways, the whole forshore between jetty and the square was still fenced off, with thousands of people around. No doubt this time next year another pipe will need to be installed and the same thing will happen, and the year after that

Is the Glenelg foreshore ever not going to be fenced off for 4 months every year

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:36 am
by crawf

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:14 pm
by Nort
jk1237 wrote:what is with the Glenelg forshore and parts of the beach always being fenced off and being dug up every single friggin year. Its becoming a joke. I was there about 6 weeks ago and the whole forshore between the jetty and the state proclamation memorial thing was dug up and fenced off, it didn;t really surprise me as this seems to be a prerequisite of the Glenelg forshore every winter.

Went down there today and apart from the walkways, the whole forshore between jetty and the square was still fenced off, with thousands of people around. No doubt this time next year another pipe will need to be installed and the same thing will happen, and the year after that

Is the Glenelg foreshore ever not going to be fenced off for 4 months every year
The solution is simple, demolish everything we have built along the Adelaide coastline to allow the natural sand drifts to behave as they did in the past.

As long as we want to keep stuff on the beaches though, we will have to work to maintain them.

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:16 pm
by Wayno
So we're all aware of the Glenelg sand pumping pipeline project. 2km of pipe from Glenelg south to Kingston. The project has been progressing well with great support from the community, until now. The entire pipeline is underground - except for the freakin ugly pipe hanging off glenelg jetty! wtf are they thinking? :wallbash:

Here's a pikkie:
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If the goal was to degrade our most iconic suburban jetty, they succeeded.

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:40 pm
by Pants
Saw that. It's unreal. There must be a reason why they couldn't run it underneath the jetty. Surely?

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:45 pm
by claybro
Wayno wrote:If the goal was to degrade our most iconic suburban jetty, they succeeded.
The pipe is an unfortunate addition. But our most iconic suburban jetty?...The pipe has just added to a rather dull concrete structure. None of Adelaides jettys could be considered "iconic" or even of any architectural merrit.Anything decent got washed away in storms many decades ago and we were left with the safe boring rubbish at all our beaches now. What of the substantial promeades with cafes and kiosks and aquaruims of the past? If the UK with their shocking hurricane force winds can create these structures then why not here? The council should spend some of the rates they must be reaping from all the highrise and carparking fines and construct a proper promenade pier, and hang the pipe underneath. We really could make something quite special here. :2cents:

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:41 pm
by crawf
Pants wrote:Saw that. It's unreal. There must be a reason why they couldn't run it underneath the jetty. Surely?
You would hope so. That looks terrible!

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:17 am
by Wayno
claybro wrote:
Wayno wrote:If the goal was to degrade our most iconic suburban jetty, they succeeded.
The pipe is an unfortunate addition. But our most iconic suburban jetty?...
you chose to focus on this?
claybro wrote:The council should spend some of the rates they must be reaping from all the highrise and carparking fines and construct a proper promenade pier, and hang the pipe underneath. We really could make something quite special here.
i proposed similar a while back - here.

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:40 pm
by Maximus
I agree that the jetty certainly isn't iconic in an architectural sense -- a "dull concrete structure" is a pretty apt description. However, it certainly is iconic in a cultural/lifestyle/tourism kind of way, and from that point of view those pipes seem like a pretty terrible addition. They're ugly as!

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:56 pm
by Wayno
Just an idea - similar to the proposal by the Garden Island Sailing club to allow day visitors to moor at Dock 1 Port Adelaide, it would be excellent if a modest number of yachts & power boats could pull up for the day off Glenelg Jetty. Wander into the township, grab your fish & chips, and sail off into the sunset. May present as a challenge with the existing jetty users (e.g. fishermen), but i'm sure it could be sorted out. Perhaps a 20-30 metre long perpendicular section of jetty could be built for such a purpose? Realise the marina is nearby, but that's paid berths only i believe.

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:37 pm
by crawf
claybro wrote:The pipe is an unfortunate addition. But our most iconic suburban jetty?...The pipe has just added to a rather dull concrete structure. None of Adelaides jettys could be considered "iconic" or even of any architectural merrit.Anything decent got washed away in storms many decades ago and we were left with the safe boring rubbish at all our beaches now. What of the substantial promeades with cafes and kiosks and aquaruims of the past? If the UK with their shocking hurricane force winds can create these structures then why not here? The council should spend some of the rates they must be reaping from all the highrise and carparking fines and construct a proper promenade pier, and hang the pipe underneath. We really could make something quite special here.
I agree with claybro here, I would love to see someone with balls and rebuild the Glenelg jetty. It could feature a two-level kiosk/cafe and restaurant, possible mini ocean aquarium and a wider and longer jetty. It would be built using the strongest material and will have stunning views of Glenelg and the coastline.

Not that the suburb nor the jetty is struggling for tourists, but it would still be another great attraction for Glenelg.

Re: Developments at glenelg

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:58 pm
by Ben
Um Crawf?

crawf wrote: I would love to see someone with balls

Re: Glenelg Development News and Progress Thread

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:31 pm
by claybro
Imagine if other suburban jettys were developed as well to proper piers with cafes, aquariums small shops and kiosks, with mooring facilities. Yatching enthusiasts could fly in to Adelaide, stay at a five star hotel in PtAdeliaide, charter a yatch from the Port River, brunch at Glenelg Pier, afternoon drinks at Henley Pier maybe a spot of parasailing from the end of the pier, followed by dinner at Semaphore then sail back into the port. For the more adventurous,a day cruise over to Port Vincent or an overnighter in KI. Other developements would spring up around marinas over on Yorkes. Adelaide has the most benign climate in Australia, with very little severe weather, and relatively calm seas in the Gulf. This gulf could bcome a little of the French Riviera with the right coastal attractions. Not huge theme parks, but quirky interesting piers and marinas as near destinations for the well healed yatching fraternity and locals alike.