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1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:32 pm

rubberman wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:56 am

For example, grassed open ballast track through the parklands instead of concrete. Cheaper and more appropriate by far.

One unintentional benefit of the track on Port Road and North Terrace is that it can be used by ambulances to and from the RAH. Can't do that with open ballasted track.

rubberman wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:00 pm

I agree on the need to consider the long term vision. However, building scissors crossovers with heavy signalling is something authorities do only if that particular terminus is going to be there for a very very very long time. If there was any real intention to extend in the near future, there would have been a simple arrangement like at the Glenelg terminus. Just think, if there was a serious intention to complete a city loop, that whole terminus at the East End would need to be dug up. Either that, or again, it was another example of gold plating.

The points could be set straight for trams to continue beyond the Botanic Gardens stop. Why would the whole terminus have to be dug up?

how good is he wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:08 pm

Maybe by Christmas? On that, will the Christmas Pageant route on North Tce be affected?

how good is he wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:58 pm

The floats used to go down the middle of North Tce (where tram stops are now). Also in front of DJs there was scaffolding/stands/walkway out (where Father Christmas gets off) so just wondering how it will affect it.

rev wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:02 pm

how good is he wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:58 pm

The floats used to go down the middle of North Tce (where tram stops are now). Also in front of DJs there was scaffolding/stands/walkway out (where Father Christmas gets off) so just wondering how it will affect it.

They'll make adjustments.

I wish they would have(Labor), or would announce(Liberal) the complete plan for tram extensions, into the suburbs, I mean a full blown network, and announce stages, when they will commence etc, and just get on with it. Stopping it at the Festival Theater and not at Adelaide Oval and the WCH was a big mistake imo. There's no guarantee that the new government will continue the extensions.

how good is he wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:08 pm

Maybe by Christmas? On that, will the Christmas Pageant route on North Tce be affected?

rev wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:02 pm

how good is he wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:58 pm

The floats used to go down the middle of North Tce (where tram stops are now). Also in front of DJs there was scaffolding/stands/walkway out (where Father Christmas gets off) so just wondering how it will affect it.

They'll make adjustments.

I wish they would have(Labor), or would announce(Liberal) the complete plan for tram extensions, into the suburbs, I mean a full blown network, and announce stages, when they will commence etc, and just get on with it. Stopping it at the Festival Theater and not at Adelaide Oval and the WCH was a big mistake imo. There's no guarantee that the new government will continue the extensions.

I Follow PAFC wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:04 pm

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Airport-city tram link a ’must-do’
NEW RAIL A PROPOSED $500 million light-rail line linking Adelaide Airport to the city has been branded a “must-do” project to kickstart tourism and construction, while awakening the state from a “sleepy-hollow mindset”.

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Adelaide Airport tram link branded a must-do project by Civil Contractors Federation
Paul Starick, Chief Reporter, Sunday Mail (SA)
August 18, 2018 2:05pm
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A proposed $500 million light-rail line linking Adelaide Airport to the city has been branded a “must-do” project to kickstart tourism and construction, while awakening the state from a “sleepy-hollow mindset”.

The Civil Contractors Federation, which has 600 members employing 20,000 South Australians, is mounting a renewed push to win support for the privately funded project, proposed last December by one of Australia’s largest companies.

The builder of Adelaide’s East End tram extension, the Downer group, lodged an unsolicited bid with the former Labor government to build, fund and operate the route, arguing a dedicated airport light-rail service would boost tourism by better connecting travellers to the city, and enhance suburban public transport.


The airport link would use a battery-powered tram, like this one in Dubai.

But Labor did not proceed with the proposal, despite Adelaide Airport declaring it was “supportive of an affordable light-rail service between the airport and Adelaide’s CBD”.

It is understood Downer remains keen to discuss the proposal with the Liberal Government, although Treasurer Rob Lucas has scotched the prospect of any funding support in next month’s State Budget.

Civil Contractors Federation SA chief executive officer Phil Sutherland said the Budget needed to fire up private sector interest regardless of the construction giant’s continued interest.

“This should particularly be among Australia’s major super funds which understand the value of backing long-term (30 years), commercially viable infrastructure operations and investments in projects such as light rail, toll-based highways and airport ownership,” he said.

Mr Sutherland cited Transport Minister Stephan Knoll’s encouraging comments last month, when he vowed nothing was off the table as work begins on bringing SA’s public transport service into the 21st century.

He said the proposed 6km line airport line, connecting North Tce, West Tce, Henley Beach Rd and Airport Rd, would be noteworthy for battery-powered trams, which do not need poles and wires.


Civil Contractors Federation SA chief executive officer Phil Sutherland.

“Any private sector proposal for the construction, funding and operating of such a logical piece of transport infrastructure, should be prioritised for consideration.

“With the completion of the new hotel at the airport and plans for the major expansion of the airport precinct, the time is now right for a modern battery powered tram link to the city.

“These battery powered trams are available now, and recharge while at stations and through excess energy on their grid — negating any need for the poles and wires of our existing tram network.”

Mr Lucas said the airport light rail link was not a Liberal promise and would not be addressed in next month’s Budget.

“Our September budget will concentrate on cleaning up Labor’s mess and keeping our promises,” he said.

“There will be a significant infrastructure program and, over coming budgets, we will also need to fund our share of the billions required for the remaining sections of the South Road project.

“Projects like this one, and others, will need to be considered over the medium to longer term as budgetary circumstances permit.”

citywatcher wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:33 pm

The hold up would appear to be political now

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