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Hooligan wrote: ↑

Mon May 20, 2019 1:04 pm

SBD wrote: ↑

Mon May 20, 2019 8:27 am

how good is he wrote: ↑

Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 pm

Waiting for the Jimmy Barnes Highway...

Perhaps that should be a new name for Philip Highway/Salisbury Highway/Port River Expressway - the road that links his birthplace to the Largs Pier Hotel where he performed.

Only one of the list above is named for a woman. We have many more notable women to consider.

We're building a road from Largs Bay to Glasgow?

SBD wrote: ↑

Mon May 20, 2019 4:19 pm

Oops - he moved to Elizabeth when he was five. Thanks for the correction. Was I right that he started performing at the Largs Pier Hotel?

Saltwater wrote: ↑

Fri May 24, 2019 11:24 am

It will be a case of hurry up and wait, as in get the plans finalised, but then delay publishing them until the next state or federal election for maximum impact

SBD wrote:

Saltwater wrote: ↑

Fri May 24, 2019 11:24 am

It will be a case of hurry up and wait, as in get the plans finalised, but then delay publishing them until the next state or federal election for maximum impact

Both Darlington and Northern Connector are expected to be finished by the end of this year. Regency Road overpass and a few other unrelated intersection upgrades have been announced, but it seems to me that there will need to be an announcement for another chunk of the main motorway later this year. It can't all wait until 2021-2022 to start.

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Government blames earlier planning works for Darlington motorway collapse, which Opposition disputes
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The wall collapse on the Darlington motorway has been blamed on issues that should have been detected during the planning process, but South Australians are no closer to knowing when they can drive on the upgraded road.

Infrastructure Minister Stephan Knoll said his early advice was that three problems had caused the collapse of the retaining wall, including imperfections in the soil, a trench caused by the removal of an SA Water mains pipe and a leaking water source.
The collapsed wall at the Darlington motorway upgrade. Picture: AAP / David Mariuz

He said the problems should have been fixed during the planning phase in 2016, when Labor was in power.

Mr Knoll is yet to receive an interim report from independent contractor Aurecon about the faults, but said he was upholding his promise to provide regular updates.

“It is now very clear that there are deficiencies in the way this project was put together,” he said.
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“These issues should have been identified and rectification should have happened as part of the design and the normal course of this project being delivered.”

He said Labor infrastructure spokesman Tom Koutsantonis had serious questions to answer on behalf of the former Labor government about the project’s design.
Infrastructure Minister Stephan Knoll. Picture: Matt Loxton
Labor infrastructure spokesman Tom Koutsantonis. Picture: Tricia Watkinson

Part of the wall on a section of the $620 million project collapsed early last month.

Mr Knoll said he was still not able to provide a time frame about when Aurecon would supply its draft report, when the issues causing the wall to collapse would be fixed or when the road would be open to motorists.

“Labor’s mess will be fixed and this road will be opened so South Australians can get the road they’ve paid for and the one that’s going to help them get to and from work quicker,” he said.

Mr Knoll said the contractor had so far met costs associated with fixing the wall and he expected that to continue.

Traffic restrictions along one of Adelaide’s busiest motorways will remain in place, he said.

Mr Koutsantonis said Mr Knoll was “desperately trying to shirk responsibility”.

He said the bulk of construction had taken place during Mr Knoll’s leadership and the faults should have been picked up in monthly reports by an independent verifier.

He called on Mr Knoll to release the Aurecon report before “making accusations” about the incident.

Llessur2002 wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:37 am

I can't quite tell what the set up is here - is there a piled wall behind the retained slopes, or is this shotcreted wall the only thing supporting the surface road above?

AG wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:56 am

Llessur2002 wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:37 am

I can't quite tell what the set up is here - is there a piled wall behind the retained slopes, or is this shotcreted wall the only thing supporting the surface road above?

From what I can tell, the wall in question is an unreinforced shotcrete sloped wall which relies on gravity (i.e. it's own weight) to stay in place.

Waewick wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:25 pm

I don't agree with the way mr knoll is handling this. But poor old Tom needs to just stay silent, there is no way a verifier is going to have been able to pick up something like this.

claybro wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:32 pm

Waewick wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:25 pm

I don't agree with the way mr knoll is handling this. But poor old Tom needs to just stay silent, there is no way a verifier is going to have been able to pick up something like this.

The blame game really is a sad indictment of Australian politics. Governments pay experts to design and construct infrastructure. If someone along the process has stuffed up, either in engineering, or construction, they should be held accountable. How was Koutsantonis or Knoll for that matter supposed to know the engineering requirements of the embankment in question, they are only politicians after all. It is ridiculous for either to lay blame on the other. However-how it is handled after the failure has occurred is what is in question now, and that is very much in Mr Knowles court.- so just shut up and get on with the enquiry.