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claybro wrote:Great to see some attention to a focal point of the parklands. This type of feature should be replicated at all main entry points to the city, instead of the stupid "city gate" idea. Imagine the Main North road entry with this landscaping, Sir Don and Unley road, West terrace etc. Lets hope however, given past experience it does not end up a few clumps of dead native grass, and some purple pipes left unused hanging out of the ground.

Plaza idea, more greenery for seedy Whitmore Square being discussed by Adelaide City Council
Simeon Thomas-Wilson, Urban Affairs Reporter, The Advertiser
May 16, 2018 12:34pm

CREATING a central plaza with a cafe or kiosk and planting more greenery to make Whitmore Square more like a park than a “roundabout” are among ideas being pursued by Adelaide City Council to make the much-maligned city precinct more user friendly.

However a survey conducted by the council says improving the safety of the square — one of Adelaide’s most popular meeting spots for those sleeping rough — at all times of the day should be among its key priorities for the area.

The council is developing a masterplan for the south west city patch of land, with community consultation on the six plans closing on Sunday.

They are;

• A CENTRAL Plaza that could include a cafe and kiosk to act as a meeting spot and a multipurpose activity space,
• OPEN lawns, separated from the road that could host a community event — which would mean extending the current lawns and removing some trees,
• INCREASED “greening” to make it feel more like a park rather than a roundabout,
• A GATHERING space, improving seating,
• INTERACTIVE small areas for playing and linking to local art, and
• IMPROVE the intersection and arrival points for pedestrians and cyclists by creating “prominent” entries into the square.

An Adelaide City Council spokeswoman said the draft masterplan would be ready by late next month to go out to the community.

Priority projects would be recommended, with $200,000 already proposed in the draft Integrated Business Plan to progress some of them.

President of the City South Association David Bolton said the community was excited about the ideas proposed in the masterplan.

“I think the general feeling is one of being quite pleased,” he said.

“The engagement has been good so far.”

But the community feedback and a survey conducted by the council has feeling “safe and comfortable” in the square as one of the three top themes.

With the Salvation Army and the St Vincent de Paul’s men’s crisis centre both in Whitmore Square, it is one of the most popular locations for homeless people in the CBD.

Shelter SA chief executive Dr Alice Clark said she hoped those service providers had a chance to respond to the survey.

“Providers have actually said that they think the open space actually makes it safer,” she said.

“I hope the Salvos and Vinnies and the like got the chance to have their say.”

A council spokeswoman said safety and comfort in the square also included traffic and lighting.

“The project team is also drawing on City of Adelaide’s ongoing relationships with local social service providers and state government to ensure the master work understands the needs of specific social services and their clients in the vicinity,” she said.

Norman wrote: ↑

Wed May 30, 2018 10:28 am

Thought our green city deserves its own thread for our green spaces

Plaza idea, more greenery for seedy Whitmore Square being discussed by Adelaide City Council
Simeon Thomas-Wilson, Urban Affairs Reporter, The Advertiser
May 16, 2018 12:34pm

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However a survey conducted by the council says improving the safety of the square — one of Adelaide’s most popular meeting spots for those sleeping rough — at all times of the day should be among its key priorities for the area.

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SBD wrote: ↑

Wed May 30, 2018 1:42 pm

Norman wrote: ↑

Wed May 30, 2018 10:28 am

Thought our green city deserves its own thread for our green spaces

Plaza idea, more greenery for seedy Whitmore Square being discussed by Adelaide City Council
Simeon Thomas-Wilson, Urban Affairs Reporter, The Advertiser
May 16, 2018 12:34pm

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However a survey conducted by the council says improving the safety of the square — one of Adelaide’s most popular meeting spots for those sleeping rough — at all times of the day should be among its key priorities for the area.

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I wonder if she meant safer for people sleeping rough or safer from people sleeping rough (make them go somewhere else). I hope it's the former.

Algernon wrote: ↑

Wed May 30, 2018 9:26 pm

Having the 5 squares both surrounded by and carved up by high traffic, high noise, wide streets totally writes them off as attractive parks to visit. The Colonel got a few things right with the city plan, but the parks within the city centre he did not. I've seen too many lively city parks in other cities to see it any other way.

Patrick_27 wrote: ↑

Wed May 30, 2018 11:27 pm

Algernon wrote: ↑

Wed May 30, 2018 9:26 pm

Having the 5 squares both surrounded by and carved up by high traffic, high noise, wide streets totally writes them off as attractive parks to visit. The Colonel got a few things right with the city plan, but the parks within the city centre he did not. I've seen too many lively city parks in other cities to see it any other way.

Because Light didn't think ahead 150 years to a time where Adelaide would be entirely dependant on private vehicles and result in the prioritisation of vehicles over pedestrians. The best balance of these factors for Adelaide was in the 20s when cars were still a growing thing and people actually prioritised the idea of taking a tram and walking places rather than relying on driving.

Patrick_27 wrote: ↑

Wed May 30, 2018 7:47 pm

Meant to put this up the other day but a group have made a submission to the ACC to build a treetop walk in the southern parklands (between Adelaide Hockey Club and Adelaide Bocci Club) which will also include zip lines. I'll dig out the submission and post here later.

Bob wrote: ↑

Thu May 31, 2018 10:01 am

Patrick_27 wrote: ↑

Wed May 30, 2018 11:27 pm

Algernon wrote: ↑

Wed May 30, 2018 9:26 pm

Having the 5 squares both surrounded by and carved up by high traffic, high noise, wide streets totally writes them off as attractive parks to visit. The Colonel got a few things right with the city plan, but the parks within the city centre he did not. I've seen too many lively city parks in other cities to see it any other way.

Because Light didn't think ahead 150 years to a time where Adelaide would be entirely dependant on private vehicles and result in the prioritisation of vehicles over pedestrians. The best balance of these factors for Adelaide was in the 20s when cars were still a growing thing and people actually prioritised the idea of taking a tram and walking places rather than relying on driving.

The city plan of Adelaide was not really designed by Colonel Light.

The plan was pre-designed by Kingston in London in 1835 of one square mile, 1000 one acre lots, surrounded by four terraces and including five squares and six chains (120m) of reserved parklands from the terraces. The squares form part of the parklands.

Once the team arrived in 1836, Kingston with the help of Fischer, set out to find a suitable location.

Light was given the job as Head Surveyor however he did not have the skills, he merely headed the team, Light’s sole job was to ‘fix’ the location, which Kingston practically did for him.

The final agreed location had terrain restrictions and the waterway (later named Torrens) so the original pre-plan was split into two (South Adelaide & North Adelaide), but as a whole the City of Adelaide.

Apart from Victoria Sq, the other squares did not have the streets running through them, they were squares, parklands, in their true form.

If anyone is interested in the true story of how the City of Adelaide and its design came about, especially focussing on why Adelaide and its parklands are so significant historically, it is well documented in a book which you can borrow through the Library system, it covers everything in detail and was comprehensively researched using historical records of all forms -

Anticipating Municipal Parks
London to Adelaide to Garden City
Donald Leslie Johnson